The greater bhakti

Rajiv Malhotra rajiv.malhotra at WORLDNET.ATT.NET
Mon Apr 17 08:16:52 CDT 2000


In the bhakti of Kabir, there is nonduality.
In the bhakti of many (not all) of Nanak's poems, there is nonduality.

In fact, among the great bhakti poets (Ravidas, Kabirdas, Ramdas, Nanak,
Meera, Surdas), there are both duality and nonduality poems. Sometimes, the
same poem starts dualistic and then transcends dualism, showing right there
the lower and higher forms of bhakti. So one cannot say categorically that
bhakti is irreconcilable with advaita.

This insight is the moat productive bridge with Christianity, Sufism and
Sikhism. Christianity is bhakti oriented but 99% dualistic. However, that's
a potential bridge, especially since many devout Christians such as Eckhart,
were fundamentally nondualists.

My own guru is radically advaitic, but encourages bhajan singing that are
nondualist bhajans. These counter the dualistic tendencies latent as
samskaras, by surrendering to the Isness of the moment and dissolving the
ego.

Rajiv


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Subject: The greater bhakti

With reference to the recent discussion about the antogonism exhibited
towards Atvaita by followers of bhakti mArga, I would like to point out
something.

The source of the antogonism towards Advaita by bhakti followers stems from
the belief that Advaita teaches the man is god. Since Advaita teaches that
the Atman is the same and non-dual with Brahman, it seems to support such a
belief. But is the Atman the same as the empirical Self - we in relation to
our normal life?

No. Advaita is clear that the empirical individual is the Jiva. Atman is the
divine essence in the Jiva. With Atman there's no individuality, while the
basic feature of the jiva is its individuality. Without individuality, the
Atman has absolutely no relation to the empirical individual (except as its
impersonal essence). So the common belief that Advaita equates man with God
is unfounded.

If you take the bhakti schools of VedAnta, all of them insist that at the
state of moksha, the individual Self still retaining its individuality,
basks in the Glory of the lord. IMO, here the bhakti is half hearted since
the followers of this mArga still do not want to let go of their
individuality even at the highest level. Though they say that they bask in
the Lords presence, they still want to be themselves. No great sacrifice
this.

Contrast this with Advaita, where there's no trace of man at the highest
level. There's only Brahman - God - at the highest level. Man ceases to
exist. This is bhakti - sacrifice - par excellence!
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