$)CRe: Re: Shankaracharya on Ramana Maharshi

$)CHemant reachhemant at ETH.NET
Sun Apr 14 03:40:44 CDT 2002


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From: "hbdave" <hbd at DDIT.ERNET.IN>
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Subject: Re: Shankaracharya on Ramana Maharshi


 $)C> Srikrishna Ghadiyaram wrote:
>
> > Hari Om !!
> >
> > Would you please elucidate more on this quote, so that
> > we too can benefit.
> >
> > Om Namo Narayanaya !!
> >
> > Srikrishna
> >
> > --- hbdave <hbd at DDIT.ERNET.IN> wrote:
> > > D.V.N.Sarma wrote:
> > >
> > > > Correction. The agama passage is 'haragaurii
> > > samyoge
> > > > avacchaayaa yogah'.
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > >
> > > > Sarma.
> > >
> > > Thanks for reminding this beautiful  and deep quote.
> > > -- Himanshu
> >
>
> This is how I understand it :
>
> hara = Shiva = Brahman;    gaurii = Parvati = Maya.
> avacchaayaa = concealment, a covering or veil hiding something;
> samyoge = [in the ] union;
>
> "[Seeing] concealment in the union of Shiva and Parvati" is  [itself]
> Yoga.
>
> This is the major (mukhya) meaning.
> Explanation :-
> By saying hara and gaurii we are having a dvaitabhaava about the
> Brahman,
> and further by saying haragaurii samyog.h we talk about their union, as
> if
> hara and gaurii are different (or separate) and they get into an union.
> Seeing concealment of the Reality here (i.e. in saying the union) itself
>
> is Yoga - i.e. my union with the One.
>
> Purport is : hara and gaurii are one, so no question of their union.
> Seeing
> this clearly is itself Yaga.
>
> This sentence is like a Mahavaakya. It has behind it total Advaita
> system.
> Compare with
>
> devasya e.sh.h svabhaava.h
> {it is the very nature of the Brahman}
> [Gaudapadacarya Karika]
>
> In Saiva siddhanta (as far as I know, I am not an expert on Kashmir
> Saivism) the experience of Puri Shankaracharya is called anupaaya
> pratibhijnaa - an effortless release.
>
> It is not surprising that a well-prepared Jnani like Puri Shankaracharya
>
> had "experience" in benign presence of Shri Ramana.
>
> There is another explanation : [this is minor (gau.na) ]:
>
> The concealment (the illusory world) is due to the union of hara
> (brahman) and gaurii (Maya) -- knowing/realizing this is Yoga.
>
> Here we have dvaitabhaava for hara and gaurii.
>
> I hope this leads the readers a thoughtless state :-)
>
> -- Himanshu

Only one remark
Kashmir Shaivism treats the world as absolutely real and never mithya as in
SAnkara advaita.

Hemant



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