[Advaita-l] BrahmaGYAna and jIvanmukti - 5 (Other References)

jagannathan mahadevan jagannathan.mahadevan at gmail.com
Fri Feb 9 22:43:40 CST 2007


Kartik,

In the quote from the Talks you had provided bhagavAn Ramana Maharishi
seems to be calling the person who only has glimpses of the self as an
"aGYAni."

Is this only a case of contextual usage? If bhagavAn were answering
someone else would he then have referred to the person in the question
as one with "unsteady GYAna"?

Would the teaching tradition change or be misinterpreted if I were to
call the "unsteady GYAna" as partial removal of vAsanAs?

Jagan.

On 2/9/07, S Jayanarayanan <sjayana at yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- jagannathan mahadevan <jagannathan.mahadevan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> [..]
>
> > I agree that from a critical and
> > academic (read teaching) standpoint one does need to distinguish
> > the
> > different moments of the experiences, from that of a person who
> > merely
> > has a "glimpse" of the self to that when the person permanently
> > realizes the self.
>
> [..]
>
> > But I
> > accept that this is part of the teaching and our gurus know better.
> >
>
> Well said!
>
> This is the point I've been making repeatedly - that the Gurus of the
> Vedanta tradition, such as Yajnavalkya of the Brihadaranyaka
> Upanishad, Sankara, Vidyaranya, Ramana Maharshi, H.H. of Sringeri,
> etc. have all accepted the distinction between steady and unsteady
> Self-realization. SSS stands alone in his lack of approval.
>
> Regards,
> Kartik
>
>
>
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