[Advaita-l] Qualifications to Recite Vedas - A doubt

[Mahadevan Babu]

SRI GURUBYO NAMAHA !!!

Dear Vyas,

Hats off to you !!! You have indeed given fantastic clarification to  
my doubts with references.

Thank You so much and I am more clear now than before on this matter.

Thanks also to all other pandits who promptly responded.  This is a  
great forum indeed for sincere seekers of TRUTH.

Pranams

Babu


On 12/06/2008, at 3:56 PM, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Mahadevan Babu wrote:
>
>> Q: Who is qualified to chant Vedas?
>> Doubt:  I believe persons who do not have Upanayanam or  
>> Brahmopadesham
>> done cannot chant Vedas.
>> Of course, all can know the meaning of the Vedas and its essence.
>> If so, where is the PramaNam for this quoted?
>>
>
> See Mimamsa sutra 6.1 and
> Brahmasutra 1.3.34-38
>
> It is in the bhashya on Brahmasutra 1.3.38 that Shankaracharya  
> explains
> how despite not being eligible for vedadhyayana, the non-dvijas are  
> still
> capable of moksha because it is a bird of a completely different  
> feather
> to dharma.
>
>> Many of the aspirants want to learn Vedas from the Veda Antham aspect
>> of Spirituality as well. This is where the dilemna lies.
>
> Tell them the truth.  They are going in 180 degrees the wrong  
> direction if
> they do that.  To learn Vedanta, study Vedanta nothing else.
>
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008, Ravi Parimi wrote:
>
>> Worrying about others violating dharma isn't going to get me  
>> anywhere.
>> I cannot take it upon myself to uphold dharma in this regard and try
>> to correct all those who chant veda without ever getting proper
>> initiation. Some people with a traditional background may heap curses
>> on the world, society, kali yuga about non-dvijas chanting the veda.
>> They can't do much apart from getting frustrated about the current
>> state of affairs.
>
> Passivity and curses.  Are these really the only two choices we  
> have?  I
> find that most of these people are sincere.  They genuinely think  
> they are
> doing a good thing and are simply misguided.  I find that if you  
> explain
> things without compromise but in a logical and non-patronizing way  
> they
> often do come around.  You never now unless you try.
>
>> I sincerely feel that a dispassionate attitude
>> towards such matters is really helpful. Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi also
>> adivses the seeker to remain focussed on the Self.
>>
>
> The self to remain focused on is Brahman not the ahamkara.  The  
> issue is
> not what is getting you anywhere but what is right.  A grhastha  
> cannot use
> mysticism as an excuse for inaction.
>
> -- 
> Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at braincells.com>
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