[Advaita-l] Advaita-l Digest, Vol 78, Issue 27

Arun (Mahadev) Tammannavar arun.tamannavar at gmail.com
Thu Feb 3 07:52:37 CST 2011


Re: World Muslim Pupulation doubling

Yes it is true that Muslims are multiplying population. That too at bottom
of pyramid. Educated and well to do muslims are not having more than two
children is also mostly true. And vote bank lies in bottom of pyramid of
muslim population. In view of Islam the world is divided in two parts (1)
Darul Islam (world having muslim rule) and (2) Darul Harb (non muslim world)
and it is ultimate aim of all muslims to convert Darul harb to Darul Islam.
This is basic answer to the multiplication of muslim population.

ArunTamannavar
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>   1. World Muslim Population Doubling (Venkatesh Murthy)
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> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:57:25 +0530
> From: Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Advaita-l] World Muslim Population Doubling
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> http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/27/world-muslim-population-doubling-report-projects/?hpt=Sbin
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> Muslims are multiplying. But Brahmins/Hindus are obeying Government in
> family planning. They must see how the Govt. of India is decieving us.
> Reducing Brahmin population and increasing the so called minority vote
> bank. Brahmins must stop family planning and have children like our
> Grandfather's generation had. If there is only one child per family
> chance of Dharma surviving is not good. Let Dharma be protected
>
> --
> Regards
>
> -Venkatesh
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 22:58:08 +0530
> From: Mahesh Ursekar <mahesh.ursekar at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] World Muslim Population Doubling
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> So, r u saying only Hindu Brahmins protect dharma? And Muslims don't? And
> then again, does quantity help your cause? Or do you care about quality
> here? And lastly, did u read the full article? It says:
>
> *"The increase in the last 20 years is greater than what we expect in the
> next 20 years," he said. Muslim population growth "is a line that's
> flattening out. They're increasing, but they're getting closer to the norm,
> the average."*
> *In other words, Muslims are coming into line with global trends toward
> fewer children per woman and an aging population. But, the report points
> out, because of the existing Muslim "youth bulge," or unusually high
> percentage of young people, Muslim population growth has a certain momentum
> that will take decades to come into line with world averages - if it ever
> does"*
>
> You are likely to jump at the last line, above. But I'm optimistic in that
> "if it ever does" will certainly happen as it becomes blatantly  evident
> that the earth has only limited resources and can't sustain such large
> populations..
>
> In closing, it would be amazing for me to find that Muslim's make babies
> just to spread their religion. I have Muslim friends, none of who have more
> than 2 children. And as far as I know, most Muslims in India with large
> families are those at the bottom of the economic & education scale. It
> would
> be more effective to control their population by giving them education &
> jobs rather than crying murder about their population increasing!
>
> Best, Mahesh
>
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> >
> >
> http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/27/world-muslim-population-doubling-report-projects/?hpt=Sbin
> >
> > Muslims are multiplying. But Brahmins/Hindus are obeying Government in
> > family planning. They must see how the Govt. of India is decieving us.
> > Reducing Brahmin population and increasing the so called minority vote
> > bank. Brahmins must stop family planning and have children like our
> > Grandfather's generation had. If there is only one child per family
> > chance of Dharma surviving is not good. Let Dharma be protected
> >
> > --
> > Regards
> >
> > -Venkatesh
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> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 23:06:54 +0530
> From: D.V.N.Sarma ??.??.???.????        <dvnsarma at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] World Muslim Population Doubling
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> Is this post relevant to the
> objectives of this list?
>
> regards,
> Sarma.
> On 1/31/11, Mahesh Ursekar <mahesh.ursekar at gmail.com> wrote:
> > So, r u saying only Hindu Brahmins protect dharma? And Muslims don't? And
> > then again, does quantity help your cause? Or do you care about quality
> > here? And lastly, did u read the full article? It says:
> >
> > *"The increase in the last 20 years is greater than what we expect in the
> > next 20 years," he said. Muslim population growth "is a line that's
> > flattening out. They're increasing, but they're getting closer to the
> norm,
> > the average."*
> > *In other words, Muslims are coming into line with global trends toward
> > fewer children per woman and an aging population. But, the report points
> > out, because of the existing Muslim "youth bulge," or unusually high
> > percentage of young people, Muslim population growth has a certain
> momentum
> > that will take decades to come into line with world averages - if it ever
> > does"*
> >
> > You are likely to jump at the last line, above. But I'm optimistic in
> that
> > "if it ever does" will certainly happen as it becomes blatantly  evident
> > that the earth has only limited resources and can't sustain such large
> > populations..
> >
> > In closing, it would be amazing for me to find that Muslim's make babies
> > just to spread their religion. I have Muslim friends, none of who have
> more
> > than 2 children. And as far as I know, most Muslims in India with large
> > families are those at the bottom of the economic & education scale. It
> would
> > be more effective to control their population by giving them education &
> > jobs rather than crying murder about their population increasing!
> >
> > Best, Mahesh
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Venkatesh Murthy
> > <vmurthy36 at gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/27/world-muslim-population-doubling-report-projects/?hpt=Sbin
> >>
> >> Muslims are multiplying. But Brahmins/Hindus are obeying Government in
> >> family planning. They must see how the Govt. of India is decieving us.
> >> Reducing Brahmin population and increasing the so called minority vote
> >> bank. Brahmins must stop family planning and have children like our
> >> Grandfather's generation had. If there is only one child per family
> >> chance of Dharma surviving is not good. Let Dharma be protected
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> -Venkatesh
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> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 23:15:55 +0530
> From: Mahesh Ursekar <mahesh.ursekar at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] World Muslim Population Doubling
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> U r right, it has no relevance! But it just curdles my mind when I read
> such
> "old worldly and biased" views (and they do crop up many a time) against
> any
> community. It might be because I take my Guru as Sri Ramakrishna, for whom
> every religion was true and hence throwing aspersions against any one would
> be nothing short of blasphemy! I will gladly make this my last post on this
> topic, having said all that I wanted to...
>
> 2011/1/31 D.V.N.Sarma ??.??.???.???? <dvnsarma at gmail.com>
>
> > Is this post relevant to the
> > objectives of this list?
> >
> > regards,
> > Sarma.
> > On 1/31/11, Mahesh Ursekar <mahesh.ursekar at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > So, r u saying only Hindu Brahmins protect dharma? And Muslims don't?
> And
> > > then again, does quantity help your cause? Or do you care about quality
> > > here? And lastly, did u read the full article? It says:
> > >
> > > *"The increase in the last 20 years is greater than what we expect in
> the
> > > next 20 years," he said. Muslim population growth "is a line that's
> > > flattening out. They're increasing, but they're getting closer to the
> > norm,
> > > the average."*
> > > *In other words, Muslims are coming into line with global trends toward
> > > fewer children per woman and an aging population. But, the report
> points
> > > out, because of the existing Muslim "youth bulge," or unusually high
> > > percentage of young people, Muslim population growth has a certain
> > momentum
> > > that will take decades to come into line with world averages - if it
> ever
> > > does"*
> > >
> > > You are likely to jump at the last line, above. But I'm optimistic in
> > that
> > > "if it ever does" will certainly happen as it becomes blatantly
>  evident
> > > that the earth has only limited resources and can't sustain such large
> > > populations..
> > >
> > > In closing, it would be amazing for me to find that Muslim's make
> babies
> > > just to spread their religion. I have Muslim friends, none of who have
> > more
> > > than 2 children. And as far as I know, most Muslims in India with large
> > > families are those at the bottom of the economic & education scale. It
> > would
> > > be more effective to control their population by giving them education
> &
> > > jobs rather than crying murder about their population increasing!
> > >
> > > Best, Mahesh
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Venkatesh Murthy
> > > <vmurthy36 at gmail.com>wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/27/world-muslim-population-doubling-report-projects/?hpt=Sbin
> > >>
> > >> Muslims are multiplying. But Brahmins/Hindus are obeying Government in
> > >> family planning. They must see how the Govt. of India is decieving us.
> > >> Reducing Brahmin population and increasing the so called minority vote
> > >> bank. Brahmins must stop family planning and have children like our
> > >> Grandfather's generation had. If there is only one child per family
> > >> chance of Dharma surviving is not good. Let Dharma be protected
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Regards
> > >>
> > >> -Venkatesh
> > >> _______________________________________________
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