[Advaita-l] Real vs. Unreal

Nithin Sridhar sridhar.nithin at gmail.com
Wed Dec 11 02:09:18 CST 2013


Is there a way in which one can purchase online books of sringeri directly
from them?


On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 12:04 PM, V Subrahmanian
<v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>wrote:

> The English version of that particular speech is uploaded here:
>
>
> http://www.mediafire.com/download/jctr7dqcf1m61jd/1+Real+and+False-+Soul+and+God+VS%281%29.doc
>
> This speech is a part of a set of Tamil speeches rendered by HH the
> Jagadguru in Chennai in 2011 chAturmAsya.  All these speeches have been
> rendered into English and are available in two English tltles:
>
> 1.World and God   2,  Emancipating Enlightenment
>
> and published by the Sringeri Peetham this year.  Both the books, costing
> Rs.80 and Rs.40 are available.
>
> regards
> subrahmanian.v
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Sujal Upadhyay <sujal.u at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Nitin: Please check this Anugraha Bhashanam by Sringeri Shankaracharya
> > Bharati Thirta Swamiji- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJGnpVIQ1-k
> >
> > Unfortunately, I cannot understand south Indian language. I am Gujarati.
>  I
> > will have to rely on translation of the above link and other discources
> > like 'Understanding advaita and mithyA'
> >
> > Difference for Jivan mukta adn Videha mukta is perceived by us, not by a
> > Jivan mukta or videha mukta. No change happens in his state of
> > consciousness, it does not matter if body remains or not.
> >
> > Aum
> >
> >
> >
> > OM
> >
> > Sujal Upadhyay
> >
> > "To disconnect from the self and to become Aware of anything else is
> > nothing but unhappiness" - Bhagawan Ramana Maharshi
> >
> > He who has faith has all
> > He who lacks faith, lacks all
> > It is the faith int he name of lord that works wonders
> > FAITH IS LIFE, DOUBT IS DEATH - Sri Ramakrishna
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Nithin Sridhar <
> sridhar.nithin at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Sujal ji,
> > >
> > > I agree with the last part that, for a Jivanmukta, the body or any
> other
> > > non-self does not exist as non-self, but he perceives them as Self
> alone.
> > > His perception of duality is superseded by the realization of Oneness
> > > attained due to Jnana.
> > >
> > > I feel, the only difference between Jivanmukta and Videhamukta is that,
> > the
> > > former maintains an apparent existence apart from Brahman for sake of
> > world
> > > and the latter renounces even such an apparent existence.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Sujal Upadhyay <sujal.u at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear Nitin bhai,
> > > >
> > > > I think unreal does not mean mithyA. Or say what is the english word
> > for
> > > > asatya?
> > > >
> > > > Satya = Real / truth
> > > > asatya = ?
> > > > mithyA (in between) = ? - that which is transient experience.
> > > >
> > > > My English is poor
> > > >
> > > > Also what is the difference between anitya and mithyA?
> > > >
> > > > According to my understanding, anitya means that which is non-self
> and
> > is
> > > > perishable. So if I destroy a cloth, it's irreversible end product is
> > > ash,
> > > > which is visible.
> > > >
> > > > While in snake-rope analogy, when snake disappears, it does not leave
> > any
> > > > trace, like it's curved path, etc.
> > > >
> > > > Adi Shankara in Tatva Bodh defines both anitya and mithya separately.
> > > >
> > > > In Jnana Drishti, the world is negated and not destroyed. that is
> > > nirvikalp
> > > > samadhi. Then there is another word, satvam khalu-idam brahma. 'Idam'
> > :)
> > > >
> > > > Sri Ramana Maharshi says, when you look at shadow, then sun is not
> > > visible,
> > > > when you look at sun, you cannot see shadow. Similarly, when you
> > clearly
> > > > experience this world, you do not experience Brahman. when you
> clearly
> > > > experience Brahman which world is not visible.
> > > >
> > > > Body is Jnani is Jnana itself (consciousness). It is not physical
> body,
> > > but
> > > > the substratum of entire universe is his body (i.e. Brahman).
> > > >
> > > > Aum
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > OM
> > > >
> > > > Sujal Upadhyay
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