[Advaita-l] Which one is first in the creation sequence

Srirudra srirudra at gmail.com
Sat Mar 1 09:40:06 CST 2014


Dear
In the Bhagavad Gita The Lord says that He is Time.Kalosmi........So there is no question of creation of time.It is anadhi.R.Krishnamoorthy.

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> On 01-Mar-2014, at 12:50 pm, V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 12:07 PM, H S Chandramouli
> <hschandramouli at gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> << Can you give a Shruti reference where time is created by Iswara? >>
>> 
>> Does not verse 9 of Prashnopanishat refer to creation of time ?
> 
> Yes.  The bhAShya clarifies that.  kAla = samvatsara is prajApati since
> samvatsara is caused by prajApati.  The Anandagiri gloss to delves on this
> point. This sounds very similar to the other mantra referred by Sri
> Anandagiri in mAndukya bhashya which I cited.
> 
> vs
> 
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Srirudra <srirudra at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear
>>> The Seven Sages and four manus were born of Lord's mind.So this should be
>>> the first.These are the generators of all the creations to follow.As it
>> is
>>> I think there is no contradiction.R.Krishnamoorthy.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On 26-Feb-2014, at 2:03 am, ramesh badisa <badisa66 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Namaskaram.
>>>> 
>>>> At the beginning of email, I would like to seek your forgiveness for
>>> raising a silly question. I could not figure out the answer for myself.
>> So,
>>> I am requesting all members to help me.
>>>> 
>>>> My confusion was related to two Bhagawad Gita slokas -
>>>> 
>>>> 4/13 (chatur varnyam ...)  &
>>>> 10/6 (Maharsayah Sapta ..).
>>>> 
>>>> The first sloka talks about four varnas. So, it is obvious that it is
>>> concerned to the creation;
>>>> 
>>>> The second sloka talks about creation of seven great sages by the Lord.
>>> This is also concerned to the creation.
>>>> 
>>>> My confusion was that which one stands first in the creation.
>>>> 
>>>> If you say, "it doesn't matter", then, sorry the matter ends there.
>>>> 
>>>> However, if you would like to help me, please read further.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Is it 4/13 first or 10/6 first
>>>> 
>>>> When there is no creation, then, there are no varnas.
>>>> Similarly, when seven great sages were born, there are no four varnas
>>> but only one varna - the first varna.
>>>> 
>>>> For me, it appears that the classification of varnas by Lord came much
>>> later after the creation. Please correct me if I am wrong.
>>>> 
>>>> Namaskaram,
>>>> ramesh
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