[Advaita-l] Fwd: Difficulty with Akhandakara Vrtti

[Ravi Kiran]

To clarify:

when the "I" is identified with body, mind or intellect, is person ( jIva)..

In that sense, it can be said

false notions of identifying "I" with the limited body/mind/intellect(
upAdhi) is removed..


On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Ravi Kiran <ravikiranm108 at gmail.com> wrote:

> One way to answer this is:
>
> The I (limited) who is seeking, will have the knowledge of the real nature
> (svarupa) of "I" as the false notions of identifying "I" with the limited
> person ( jIva) is removed..
>
> Thanks
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 11:56 PM, Durga Janaswamy via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>> Same question, a bit expanded:
>>
>> In drustanta (द्रष्टांत), the tenth man realizes that  "I am the tenth"
>> who is a limited person (परिछिन्न).
>> In draastanta (द्राष्टांत), do I realize that I am Brahman, (who is
>> अपरिछिन्न)?  If not, how the realization happens in this context?
>>
>> Thank you and regards
>> -- durga prasad
>>
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>> > To: advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
>> > Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:12:18 +0000
>> > Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Fwd: Difficulty with Akhandakara Vrtti
>> > From: advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
>> >
>> > In drustanta (द्रष्टांत), the tenth man realizes that  "I am the
>> tenth".    In draastanta (द्राष्टांत), do I realize that I am Brahman?
>> > If not, how the realization happens in this context?
>> >
>> >
>> > Thank you and regards
>> > -- durga prasad
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----------------------------------------
>> >> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 20:19:48 +0530
>> >> To: advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
>> >> Subject: [Advaita-l] Fwd: Difficulty with Akhandakara Vrtti
>> >> From: advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
>> >>
>> >> In the laukika example, "This is that Devadatta", the recognition of
>> >> devadatta, once it has occurred, there is no "abiding" (constant)
>> feeling
>> >> "this is that devadatta", just as the man who is told "you are the
>> tenth",
>> >> will not continue to "realize" that he is the tenth person, after he
>> has
>> >> realized just once, with the help of a passer-by (pramANa). After his
>> >> earlier agony of missing a person is destroyed by the realization, "I
>> am
>> >> the tenth", the "realization" that he is the tenth also becomes
>> irrelevant.
>> >> Why? There was no missing person, to begin with, and so the statement
>> "you
>> >> are the tenth" was not really required! I think this is what the
>> Swamiji is
>> >> alluding to when he says the BrahmajnAna from the upanishad pramANa is
>> a
>> >> vRtti jnAna, as opposed to a svarUpajnAna. The brahmajnAna is only
>> required
>> >> to put an end to avidyA, and not beyond that.
>> >>
>> >> Anand
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