[Advaita-l] mAya and avidyA are not synonyms

[Ravi Kiran]

Few more refs:

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On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 6:58 PM, Ravi Kiran <ravikiranm108 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Namaste
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Bhaskar YR via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>> praNAms
>> Hare Krishna
>>
>> If I remember right, I had written about this earlier also in either of
>> the groups but don't remember.
>>
>> Before equating mAya and  avidyA atleast we should first understand what
>> is mAya and avidyA as per bhAshya.
>>
>> According to shruti, geetAchArya and bhAshyakAra,  mAya is some sort of
>> Shakti, which is brahmAnanya, nitya, akshara, anirvachaneeya.  And shankara
>> categorically states that we have to accept this mAya Shakti in brahman if
>> not brahma will not be a creator and whole srushti prakriya goes into thin
>> air and shruti which talks extensively on srushti prakriya becomes
>> apramANya.  Na hi tayA vinA parameshwarasya srashtutvaM siddhyati, Shakti
>> rahitasya tasya pravruttyanupapatteH.  And elsewhere bhAshyakAra further
>> confirms through mAyAshakti only brahman would get the pravrutti to do this
>> creation but in his svarUpa he always nishkriya.  paramAtmanastu
>> svarUpavyapAshrayaM audAseenyaM mAyAvyapAshrayaM cha pravartakatvaM.  Like
>> this between kAraNa brahma and kArya jagat there exist a Shakti and that
>> Shakti is the reason for the vyAkruta jagat of nAma rUpa.  Though it has
>> been said that this Shakti is in between kAraNa and kArya, this Shakti
>> belongs to brahman (kAraNa) only and not a separate force.  This has been
>> clearly stated by geetAchArya mama svarUpabhUtA madeeya mAyA and
>> bhAshyakAra confirms this by stating : kAraNasya AtmabhUtA shaktiH
>> shakteshcha AtmabhUtaM kAryaM, sA shaktiH brahmaiva ahaM Shakti Shakti
>> matOH ananyatvAt.  And the paryAya pada-s for this Shakti / mAyA is
>> prakruti, vaishNavi mAya, mUla prakruti, akshara, avyaktA etc. This Shakti
>> is divine not dOsha or anishta like jeevAshrita avidyA.  Hence geetAchArya
>> affectionately says it is mine (mama mAyA)  : daivee hyeshA guNamayee mama
>> mAyA duratyayA.  This mAyA has been ulogised as parameshwari in some
>> purANa-s as well,  that is the reason why we have the names like mAyAdevi,
>> mAyAvati, yOga mAya etc.  not avidyAvati, avidyA devi etc. :) And again
>> this mAya,  as per geetAchArya has two prakruti-s i.e. para and apara.  As
>> we all know aparA prakruti is paNcha tanmAtra-s and samashti BMI of
>> hiraNyagarbha (ashta vidhA prakruti) and para prakruti is jeeva who is
>> ultimately nothing but brahman.  Since for this aparA prakruti brahman is
>> the only abhinna nimittOpadAna kAraNa this aparA prakruti is nothing
>> different from brahman.  Hence shruti says AtmanaH AkAsha saMbhUtaH,
>> akAshAt vAyuH, vAyOragniH, agnerApaH, ApaH pruthivi etc. And this mAyA is
>> anirvachaneeya as well since from the kArya drushti it is not brahman since
>> there is no bhinnatva in brahman no variety in brahman (neha nAnAsti
>> kiMchana) but at the same time this bhinnatva does not have any independent
>> existence apart from that ekaM.  Shankara gives foam, water example for
>> this and this anirvachaneeya mAyA is avyakta.  avyaktA hi sA mAyA
>> tattvAnyatva nirUpaNasya ashakyatvAt.  And this avyAkruta /avyakta Shakti
>> of brahman before creation called mUla prakruti which has been
>> categorically addressed as brahman only.  yA mUlaprakrutiH abhyupagamyate
>> tadeva cha nO brahma.  Now, if we replace these vaishNavi mAya, avyakta,
>> avyAkruta, mUla prakruti, akshara words with the avidyA, the arthahAni is
>> quite conspicuous.  Because avidyA which has been defined in Advaita is
>> entirely different from the above divine power i.e. mAya.
>>
>> So, what is avidyA ??  We don't get better place other than adhyAsa
>> bhAshya to know what is avidyA according to bhAshyakAra.  The point to be
>> noted that in this comprehensive analysis of adhyAsa shankara nowhere
>> equates avidyA with mAya and say avidyA is anirvachaneeya and this avidyA
>> is tattvAnyatva nirUpaNasya ashakyaM.  OTOH, by taking the example of day
>> to day activities shankara explains the nature of avidyA which results in
>> adhyAsa.  Those who have studied this in detail know that avidyA is
>> agrahaNa , ajnAna or jnAnAbhAva that jeeva does not know that he is
>> brahman.  And this not-knowing the real nature of his results in
>> mis-conception (adhyAsa, anyathA grahaNa, vipareeta buddhi atasmin tat
>> buddhiH) And shankara in general calls this adhyAsa itself as avidyA (vide
>> adhyAsa bhAshya).  And elsewhere shankara confirms that unlike mAyA  Shakti
>> which is brahmAnanya, avidyA does not have any existence in brahman /
>> Atman...sA cha avidyA nAtmanaH svAbhAvikO dharmaH because Atman is ever
>> shuddhaM, nirmalaM, avidyAmala rahitaM, mukta svarUpaM.  And this has been
>> further clarified by shankara kAtaka shruti bhAshya that avidyA is only
>> jeeva's mess in reality it does not pertains to him.  lOkO hi avidyayA sva
>> Atmana adhyastayA kAma karmOdbhavaM duHkhaM anubhavati na tu sA
>> paramArthataH svAtmani.  Since this avidyA is abhAva rUpa it can be effaced
>> completely after the dawn of jnana if avidyA is a vastu, a thing or bhAva
>> then it cannot be eradicated by any dosage of jnana.  Na hi bhAvAnAM
>> niranvayO nirupAkhyO vinAshaH saMbhavati it is just because nabhAvO vidyate
>> sataH says geetAchArya.  By giving the cataract example, shankara explains
>> this avidyA / adhyAsa is karaNa dOsha not relating to kshetrajnA, and
>> jeeva's samsara is because of this anishta avidyA.
>>
>> Underthese circumstance, when mAyA is denoted as brahma Shakti and avidyA
>> is explained as jeeva's weakness, when one has the ashraya in brahman and
>> another has the Ashraya of mAyA kArya, when one is anirvachaneeya and
>> another one is nirvachaneeya ( an entire chapter has been dedicated to
>> explain avidyA /adhyAsa I don't know where it has been said that avidyA is
>> anirvachaneeya).  And when one is compared to divine power and another one
>> is compared to tAmasa pratyaya and when one is compared to 'anna' and
>> another one is compared to 'visha', and when one is the kAraNa for the
>> srushti lAya and another one is the kAraNa for ahaMkAra mamakAra,
>> bhOktrutva, kartrutva...etc. etc.  One cannot illogically compare these
>> different aspect as one and the same just  going by eka vAkya of
>> bhAshyakAra where he assers : avidyAtmikA hi beeja shaktiH avyakta pada
>> nirdeshya.
>>
>
>
> Noted the categorization drawn above based on the explanation given, which
> is not disagreed ..
>
> However, there are some refs in BSB - तदधीनत्वादर्थवत् , where avidyA is
> used in the context of bIja shakti, avyakta, mAya, akshara etc and not just
> restricted to jIva's nescience (avidya) ,
>
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> । तदिदं ‘महतः परमव्यक्तम्’ इत्युक्तम् — अव्यक्तप्रभवत्वान्महतः, यदा
> हैरण्यगर्भी बुद्धिर्महान् । यदा तु जीवो महान् तदाप्यव्यक्ताधीनत्वाज्जीवभावस्य
> महतः परमव्यक्तमित्युक्तम् । अविद्या ह्यव्यक्तम् ..
>
> sure, there could be more such usage..
>
>
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