[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Works of Sri Vidyashankara
Venkatraghavan S
agnimile at gmail.com
Thu Dec 29 00:04:07 CST 2016
Namaste Sunilji,
You are free to disagree with any name in the list. I don't hold this to be
definitive - I was only replying to your question if I had a view on what
the 16 bhAshyas referred to by Chitsukhacharya could be. If you have a
better methodology, so be it.
In any case, not sure how relevant this is useful in determining whether
the GIta bhAshya was written by Shankara or not.
Please provide a definitive basis that rules it's authorship out. Until
then, I will recuse myself from the discussion.
Regards,
Venkatraghavan
On 28 Dec 2016 11:39 p.m., "Sunil Bhattacharjya" <
sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Namaste Venkatraghavanji,
>
> Not only you forgot to include the Shvetasvatara Upanishad as well as the
> Yogasutrabhashyavivaraan, you forgot to include Adi Shankara's very first
> bhashya, which was on the Vishnusahasranama and you also forgot his very
> last bhashya, which was on the Lalita Trishati. May I request the other
> scholars including Vidyasankar Sundaresanji, as to which, according to
> them, are the bhashyas, which constitute the list of the 16 Bhashyas of
> Adi Shankara.
>
> Regards,
> Sunil KB
>
>
>
> On Wed, 12/28/16, Sunil Bhattacharjya sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com
> [advaitin] <advaitin at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] [advaitin] Works of Sri Vidyashankara
> To: "Venkatraghavan S" <agnimile at gmail.com>
> Cc: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
> vedanta.org>, "V Subrahmanian" <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>, "yahoogroups" <
> advaitin at yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, December 28, 2016, 12:18 PM
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> Namaste Venkatraghavanji.
>
>
>
> How can you exclude Shankara-bhashyas on the Shvetashvatara
> upnaishad and the Yogabhashyavivarana, just because the
> Vaninilas press did not include these two in the list of 16
> Shankara-bhashyas. I cannot imagine that Shankara did not
> look at the Yogasutra and the seshvara-Sankhya.as needed for
> higher studies on Indian philosophy.
>
>
>
> Secondly, there is a doubt on the Vakyabhashya being a work
> of Adi Shankara. There is a paper on that, but I do not
> recall the detials. Moreover there was some discussion on it
> in the "advaita group" as follows:
>
> http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/archives/advaita-l/2009-June/021911.html
>
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>
> As regards the book entitled "Shankara And Indian
> Philosophy" of Natalia Isayeva, it is published by the
> State University of New York Press. Albany. I read from a
> library.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> sunil KB
>
>
>
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> On Wed, 12/28/16, Venkatraghavan S
> <agnimile at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] [advaitin] Works of Sri
> Vidyashankara
>
> To: "Sunil Bhattacharjya"
> <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com>
>
> Cc: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta"
> <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>, "V
> Subrahmanian" <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
>
> Date: Wednesday, December 28, 2016, 11:30 AM
>
>
>
> Namaste
>
> Sunilji,I'm replying to both emails
>
> simultaneously:
>
> 1) The vANi vilAs Press, which brought out a
>
> collection of AchArya's works under the aegis of HH
> Sri
>
> SacchidAnanda ShivAbhinava Nrsimha BhArati svAminah,
> lists
>
> the following as bhAshyas:1)
>
> Brahmasutra-bhashya2) Isa3) Kena
>
> pada4) Kena vAkya5) KaTha6)
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> PraSna
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> 7) MuNDaka8) MANDUkya9) Aitareya
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> 10) Taittiriya11) ChhAndogya
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> 12) BrihadAraNyaka13) NrisimhapUrvatApani
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> 14) Bhagavad-GitA-bhAshya
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> 15) VishNusahasranAma16) SanatsujAtiya
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> From the above, the number according to vAni
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> vilAs ties in with the number referred to by
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> chitsukhAchArya. If there is a bhAshya that is left out
> from
>
> the list above which can take the place of the gIta
> bhAshya,
>
> please let us know. 2) Can't comment
>
> on language differences between gIta bhAshya and the
> rest,
>
> would have to see specific examples to opine. If you can
>
> provide instances from Prof. Karmakar's paper to the
>
> list, we all can take a look. I'm suspicious of
>
> philological research, but will keep an open
>
> mind.
>
> 3) Not having read Nataliya Isayeva's
>
> paper, I do not understand in what context the comment
> about
>
> adhyAropa apavAda was made. This is a common prakriya
> across
>
> all vedAnta shAstra in general, and not something that
> is
>
> unique to the gIta bhAshya. Also not sure about the
>
> sundarapANDya reference. If there is a peculiarity about
> the
>
> way it is used in the BGB which is indicative of
> sundarapANDya's
>
> work, please share that with the group. Why would
>
> that rule out Shankara's authorship in any
>
> case?
>
> 4) Please can you point which verse number from
>
> the GK is supposedly from the expanded gItA, and missing
>
> from the gItA bhAshya?
>
> 5) On yAdavaprakAsha, you were questioning the
>
> authorship of the ShAnkara Gita bhAshya based on a
>
> subsequent bhAshya by yAdavaprakAsha referred to
>
> by VedAnta deshika. If you do not believe in the first
>
> instance that yAdavaprakAsha wrote a bhAshya, that
> question
>
> of Shankara's authorship on that basis also falls
>
> away.
>
> Regards,Venkatraghavan
>
>
>
> On 28 Dec 2016 4:54
>
> p.m., "Sunil Bhattacharjya"
> <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com
>
> > wrote:
>
> Dear Venkatji,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> According Chitsukhacharya, there were 16 bhashyas written
> by
>
> Adi Shankara. Has anybody tried to identify these 16
>
> bhashyas of Adi Shankara? Can the Bhagavad Gitabhashya
> fit
>
> in the 16 Bhashyas?
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> Secondly there is the language style of the
>
> Bhagavadgitabhashya, from which some scholars opined
> that
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> Bhagavadgitabhashya does not appear to a composition of
> Adi
>
> Shankara.
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> Thirdly, why would Adi Shankara write bhashya on the
>
> Bhagavadgita of 700 verses when the original Bhagavadgita
> of
>
> 745 verses was available to him, as we can see the
> inclusion
>
> of thy ajati ada verse from the Bhagavadgita in the
>
> Mandukyakarika by Gaudapadacharya.
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> Now coming to Yadavaprakasha, I still have one doubt,
> about
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> his writing the Bhagavadgitabhshya, until some
> confirmation
>
> is seen. Just claiming that Yadavaprakasha wrote a
> bhashya
>
> on the Bhagavad gita is not worth accepting.
>
> Ramanujacharya is believed to have seen the
> Bodhayana-vritti
>
> on the Bhagavadgita, which is claimed to be the
> guide-book
>
> for Ramanujacharya, but that claim also appears dicey,
> as
>
> nowhere any trace of that Bodhayanavriti has been found.
>
> Swami Vivekananda also tried his best by searching for
> it
>
> all over India.
>
>
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>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> skb
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> On
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> Wed, 12/28/16, Venkatraghavan S via Advaita-l
> <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedan
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> ta.org> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] [advaitin] Works of Sri
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> Vidyashankara
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> To: "V Subrahmanian"
> <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
>
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> Cc: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta"
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> <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedan
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> ta.org>
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> Date: Wednesday, December 28, 2016, 6:25 AM
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> Thanks Subbuji.
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> So yAdavaprakAsha wrote a commentary to the
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> Brahma SUtra also, one that was
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>
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> referred to
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> by Sri RAmanuja.
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> It's
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> clear from this that using yAdavaprakAsha to claim
> that
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> the
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> Shankara
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>
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> who wrote the Brahma SUtra bhAshya
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>
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> is different from the Shankara who wrote
>
>
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> the
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>
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> Bhagavad Gita bhAshya is not with merit - because
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> yAdavaprakAsha wrote
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> a commentary to the BS
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> too!
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> What applies for the
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>
>
> Gita, applies for the BS too, so shall we say Shankara
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> did not write the bhAshya to BS also?
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> Regards,
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> Venkatraghavan
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> On 28
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> Dec 2016 1:15 p.m., "V Subrahmanian"
> <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
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> wrote:
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> > On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 4:43 PM,
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> Venkatraghavan S <agnimile at gmail.com>
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> > wrote:
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> >> Namaste Sri Sunil,
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> >>
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> >> Are there extant
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> works of yAdavaprakAsha to determine if he was an
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> >> advaitin, or if this was simply a
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> hagiographical attribution by
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> vishiShTAdvaita scholars?
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> >>
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> >> Regards,
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> >>
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> Venkatraghavan
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> >>
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> >
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> > Dear Sri Venkat
>
>
>
> ji,
>
>
>
> >
>
>
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> > Recently there
>
>
>
> was a discussion in the BVP forum where eminent
> Ramanuja
>
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> > follower-scholars have said that the
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>
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> Yadavaprakaśa bhāṣya for the
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> >
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> Brahmasutras, though not available in its original
> form,
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> is
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> cited in
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> > Ramanuja's bhāsya. There
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>
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> is a proposed project to reconstruct Y's
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> > philosophy from the Śrībhāṣya. The
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> discussion also gives room to think of
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> > 'Śankara's matam' as
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>
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> distinct from 'Yādavaprakāśa's
>
> philosophy'.
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> So, what
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>
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> > hue of Advaita was that of the
>
>
>
> latter is not clearly known to us. But the
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>
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> > proposed reconstruction, if it happens,
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> would bring these aspects to the
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> limelight.
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> > warm
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> regards
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> > subbu
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> margin-bottom:20px;padding:0px;}
>
> #yiv5052542453 #yiv5052542453ygrp-sponsor #yiv5052542453ov
> li a {
> font-size:130%;text-decoration:none;}
>
> #yiv5052542453 #yiv5052542453ygrp-sponsor #yiv5052542453ov
> li {
> font-size:77%;list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;}
>
> #yiv5052542453 #yiv5052542453ygrp-sponsor #yiv5052542453ov
> ul {
> margin:0;padding:0 0 0 8px;}
>
> #yiv5052542453 #yiv5052542453ygrp-text {
> font-family:Georgia;}
>
> #yiv5052542453 #yiv5052542453ygrp-text p {
> margin:0 0 1em 0;}
>
> #yiv5052542453 #yiv5052542453ygrp-text tt {
> font-size:120%;}
>
> #yiv5052542453 #yiv5052542453ygrp-vital ul li:last-child {
> border-right:none !important;
> }
> #yiv5052542453
>
>
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