[Advaita-l] Why did Krishna said that he was unable to repeat Gita?

Sunil Bhattacharjya sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com
Sat Oct 29 14:46:51 CDT 2016


Dear Shahswataji,

Let us hear if you have any ideas on it.

Regards,
Sunil K. Bhattacharjya
--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 10/29/16, Shashwata Shastri via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Why did Krishna said that he was unable to repeat	Gita?
 To: "V Subrahmanian" <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>, "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
 Date: Saturday, October 29, 2016, 11:25 AM
 
 Pranam Sunil Ji,
 
 But we can simply throw some
 ideas. Right?
 
 Best
 Regards,
 
 Shashwata
 Chowdhury
 
 On Sat, Oct 29,
 2016 at 7:59 PM, V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
 advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
 wrote:
 
 > On Sat, Oct 29,
 2016 at 9:30 PM, D.V.N.Sarma
 డి.వి.ఎన్.శర్మ via Advaita-l <
 > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
 wrote:
 >
 > > Are we
 sure that Anu Gita is not an interpolation.
 > >
 >
 > Shankaracharya has cited verses from the
 Anugītā in the introduction to the
 >
 Bh.G.Bhāṣya.
 >
 >
 ‘स हि धर्मः
 सुपर्याप्तो ब्रह्मणः
 पदवेदने’ (अश्व. १६-१२)
 इति *अनुगीतासु* ।
 > तत्रैव चोक्तम्
 — ‘नैव धर्मी न चाधर्मी
 न चैव हि शुभाशुभी । ’
 (अश्व. १९-७)
 > ‘यः
 > स्यादेकासने
 लीनस्तूष्णीं
 किञ्चिदचिन्तयन्’
 (अश्व. १९-१) ॥ इति
 ‘ज्ञानं
 >
 संन्यासलक्षणम्’ (अश्व.
 ४३-२६) इति च ।
 >
 > The concerned chapter in the MB is
 titled:
 >
 >
 अर्जुनेन कृष्णंप्रति
 पूर्वोपदिष्टगीतार्थस्य
 विस्मरणोक्त्या
 >
 पुनस्तदुपदेशप्रार्थना।।
 1 ।।
 कृष्णेनार्जुनंप्रति
 स्वस्मै
 >
 ब्राह्मणोक्तसिद्धकाश्यपसंवादानुवादः।।
 2 ।।
 >
 > So, we
 cannot suspect its interpolation at least till his times. Of
 course
 > the possibility of interpolation
 is forever there for the whole of the
 >
 Mahabharata since no one knows for sure what was its size at
 its inception.
 > There are several
 versions, sizes, of the BG itself, dating to
 > pre-Shānkaran times.  For example there
 has been a 'Kāshmīra pāṭha' with
 > very old commentaries.
 >
 >
 >
 regards
 > vs
 >
 > > regards,
 > >
 Sarma.
 > >
 >
 >
 > > On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 8:20
 AM, Sunil Bhattacharjya via Advaita-l
 >
 > <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
 wrote:
 > > > Dear Shashwata
 Shastriji,
 > > >
 > > > I never said that the Lord
 expressed his inability to be yoga-yukta. He
 > > took the avatara for a divine purpose
 and not to be yoga-yukta at anytime
 >
 > at the call of Arjuna, whom the Lord rebuked for
 forgetting all that he
 > had
 > > been taught. Further, the Lord very
 well knew that Vedavyasa would
 > >
 propagate to the world what all the Lord taught to
 Arjuna.
 > > >
 >
 > > I am neither speak for the Lord nor can claim that
 I understand all his
 > > maya. I just
 expressed what I understood as to why the Lord did not
 > repeat
 > > the Gita
 discourse. Lord has his own way of working. Vedavyasa told
 that
 > > the Lord could have averted
 the curse of Gandhari if he wanted to  and
 > > protected the Yadus from getting
 destroyed, but he did not do that.
 > >
 >
 > > > Regards,
 > > > Sunil KB
 >
 > > --------------------------------------------
 > > > On Fri, 10/28/16, Shashwata
 Shastri <shashwata.unimas at gmail.com>
 > wrote:
 > > >
 > > >  Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Why
 did Krishna said that he was unable to
 >
 > repeat Gita?
 > > >  To:
 "Sunil Bhattacharjya" <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com>,
 "A
 > > discussion group for
 Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
 > vedanta.org
 > >
 >
 > > >  Date: Friday, October
 28, 2016, 6:53 PM
 > > >
 > > >  Pranam
 >
 > >  Sunil ji,
 > > >
 > > >  Svayam Bhagwan
 > > >  is unable to achieve
 yoga-yukta state again? That
 > >
 >  doesn't sound right. Who has subjugated
 yoga-maya, who
 > > >  is by born
 jivanmukta he has issues while acquiring youga
 > > >  yukta state? Isn't there a
 mystery behind it?
 > > >
 > > >  Best Regards,
 > > >
 > >
 >
 > > >  Shashwata Chowdhury
 > > >
 > > > 
 On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at
 > > > 
 9:45 PM, Sunil Bhattacharjya via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
 > > vedanta.org>
 >
 > >  wrote:
 > > > 
 Namaste
 > > >  Praveenji,
 > > >
 > >
 >
 > > >
 >
 > >  The Lord also said that he delivered the
 discourse in
 > > >  Yoga-yukta
 state.
 > > >
 >
 > >
 > > >
 > > >  Kind regards,
 > > >
 > >
 >
 > > >
 >
 > >  ------------------------------ --------------
 > > >
 > > > 
 On Thu, 10/27/16, Praveen R.
 > >
 >  Bhat <bhatpraveen at gmail.com>
 > > >  wrote:
 >
 > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > >
 >   Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Why did Krishna
 said that he was
 > > >  unable to
 repeat Gita?
 > > >
 > > >   To: "Sunil
 Bhattacharjya" <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com
 > > >  >, "A discussion group
 for Advaita Vedanta"
 > > > 
 <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
 > > >  vedanta.org>
 > > >
 > >
 >   Date: Thursday, October 27, 2016, 2:10
 AM
 > > >
 > >
 >
 > > >
 >
 > >   Namaste Sunilji,
 >
 > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > >
 >
 > > >
 >
 > >   On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at
 > > >
 > >
 >   11:06 AM, Sunil Bhattacharjya via
 > > >  Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
 > > >  vedanta.org>
 > > >
 > >
 >   wrote:
 > > >
 > > >   Lord Krishna did
 not
 > > >
 > >
 >   forget Gita. How cam he? Please do not go
 by the
 > > >  translation
 > > >
 > >
 >   and better read what the Lord said to
 Arjuna as given in
 > > >  the
 > > >
 > >
 >   Sanskrit verses.
 > >
 >
 > > >
 >
 > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > >
 >   The relevant
 > >
 >
 > > >   part of the
 verse reads so in Sanskrit: न च
 >
 > >
 > >
 >   साऽद्य
 पुनर्भूयः
 > >
 >
 > >
 >   स्मृतिर्मे
 > > >
 > >
 >   सम्भविष्यति । The
 explanation
 > > >  may
 > > >
 > >
 >   not have been given, but the translation
 is not
 > > >  incorrect,
 > > >
 > >
 >   since it literally reads as: "And
 now, that
 > > >
 > > >   recollection of
 mine [regarding the narration] is not
 >
 > >
 > >
 >   possible".
 > >
 >
 > > >
 >
 > >
 > > >   Kind
 rgds,
 > > >
 >
 > >   --Praveen R. Bhat
 > > >
 > >
 >   /* Through
 > >
 >
 > > >   what should
 one know That owing to which all this is
 > > >  known!
 >
 > >
 > >
 >   [Br.Up. 4.5.15] */
 >
 > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > >
 >
 > > >
 >
 > >
 > > >
 > > > 
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