[Advaita-l] GunAtIta and jIvanmukta

Raghav Kumar Dwivedula raghavkumar00 at gmail.com
Thu Sep 29 10:36:32 CDT 2016


One small addendum -  the word samAdhi in the verse is treated as a synonym
for brahman. And we say
samAdhiH nAma brahma, samAdhi-nimitta-praGYAvagamyatvAt.

Om

On 29-Sep-2016 9:03 pm, "Raghav Kumar Dwivedula" <raghavkumar00 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaste Ravi Kiran ji
> You may find this of interest. Commenting on advaita prakaraNa verse 37, a
> prakaraNa having many references to the sitting-still type of nidhidhyAsana,
> We have
> सर्वाभिलापविगतः सर्वचिन्तासमुत्थितः ।
> सुप्रशान्तः सकृज्ज्योतिः समाधिरचलोऽभयः ॥ ३७ ॥
>
> The word samadhi is parsed as समाधिः  *समाधिनिमित्तप्रज्ञावगम्यत्वात् * ;
> समाधीयते अस्मिन्निति वा समाधिः ।
>
> The first meaning viz., samAdhipraGYA avagamyatvAt implies 'known through
> the 'experience' or state of consciousness brought about by samAdhi.'
> (Generally the second meaning is the preferred meaning. But the first does
> not have to be wrong.)
>
> When sufficient prior shravanam is already there,  there is no reason to
> deny the possibility that certain other obstacles, which are preventing the
> arising of apratibandhaka GYanam, get removed by samadhi-born praGYA.
>
> (Technically though, it will be said  NS does not permit pramANa prameya
> vyApAra so GYAnam is not possible in that particular state. It has to be
> either before or after. But we can get around that technical objection by
> saying that like a flickering tubelight which comes on sometime later after
> flipping the switch of shravaNam. The samadhi born praGYA
> (RtambharApraGYA?) serves the purpose of removing other lingering obstacles
> (viparita bhavana-s?) to the arising of GYAnam.)
>
> Dont know if your line of enquiry is related to what i wrote. Hope it
> helps.
>
> Om
> Raghav
>
> On 29-Sep-2016 5:28 pm, "Ravi Kiran via Advaita-l" <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> >
> > Namaste Sri Chandramouli Ji
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 4:31 PM, H S Chandramouli <
> hschandramouli at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Namaste Sri Ravi Ji,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Reg  << Noted, in JMV, the advaita (paramArthika) jnAna is told as
> > > asamprajnAta samAdhi ( ref in Muktika Up 2.53,54) , which alone is
> termed
> > > as nirvikalpaka samAdhi ? >>,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have not read  Muktika Up. So I cannot comment.   The terms relating
> to
> > > Samadhi appearing  even in advaitic literature sometimes pertain to a
> > > yogi (who is not a jnani in the advaitic sense) and at other times  to
> a
> > > jnani. Hence it is always difficult to understand significance the term
> > > samAdhi correctly unless the context is clear. Atleast that is my
> > > understanding.
> > >
> >
> > Reference is from JMV in manonAsa prakarana, which is quoting muktika up.
> >
> > Agree with the difference noted with yogi from jnAni.
> >
> > Question is more with the (Atma darshana) jnAna itself ? what is the
> > difference ( if any, in lakSana etc), if you happen to know ?
> >
> > where it (advaita jnAna) is considered as NS (if not from JMV) ?
> >
> > Isn't NS also a yogic terminology synonymous with asamprajnAta samadhi ?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > >
> > >
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