Grandfathers and sannyaasa

egodust egodust at DIGITAL.NET
Wed Nov 20 23:23:33 CST 1996

Joshi wrote:
> (I had problem in sending this, trying a resend..)
> > On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Charles A. Hillig wrote:
> >
> > > Isn't it possible to be 100% involved and  fully participatory in his
> > > family's life,
> > >              and yet to remain 100% detached from the dramas that unfold
> in
> >  it?
> > >
> >
> > Yes, but that is not the point of the story. The key thing to be noted is
> > the grandfather's answer, "I am never going to leave you." This indicates
> > attachment on the grandfather's part. So long as there is no detachment
> > from all ties, including near family, there is no point in taking to the
> > sannyasa-asrama as a matter of ritual.
> >
> > Vidyasankar
> >
> Namaste Vidya,
> I would say the grandfather left the house with such an intense renunciation
> that in between his stepping out of the door and hearing the child's cry,
> he bacame Wise ! He Realized !
> And now having realized, he just comes back, and with full knowledge, says to
>  the child:
> 'O my dear, Don't cry,  I am never going to leave you'.
> And that is what Chuck calls it as 100% renunciation at the same time 100%
>  involvement.
> Our grandfather is now one such !
> - Joshi

Yes!  The vairagya accompanying muktha doesn't conflict with compassion, which
is an expression of the bhavana of at-one-ment (the undercurrent Sat).

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