"Does God make mistakes?"
marting at NSWCC.ORG.AU
Thu Jul 10 03:29:28 CDT 1997
At 04:06 AM 8/07/97 -0700, you wrote:
> The Self "thinks" and the illusory "you" SEEMS to be having the thoughts.
> But any so-called conflict is only in the "I" of the beholder.
..........But if a violent thought occurs it comes from the illusion of
separation. If that comes from the Self in Oneness (impossible) then we may
as well go to Adolph Hitler for satsang.
> But maybe there is no real "goal" to be arguing about. For that
>matter, maybe such arguments are also illusory. Maybe there's only the Self.
..........Then what are we talking about?
>>>Q. But what SEPARATE one is really there to sense this so-called
>>A. There is no separate one. The division is only imagined at particular
>>points in space and time. The separation is believed.
> But, by WHOM?
............The Self. Separation is believed temporarily.
> WHO is there who is going to get rid of this sense of separation.
.............The Self perceives disharmony and in that perception it stops
> Can you really be present as a witness to your own awakening?
.............There is no awakening. There is only the dispelling of darkness.
>> When I have seen violence, it's always been appropriate for me to try
>to stop it in any way I can....even though nothing is really "wrong."
...........I would say that at that moment you were more conscious than the
>>>Q. The problem may only be in believing that there is a quintessential
>>difference between the "victor" and the "victim."
>>A. Before or after the violence?
> Actually, at any time.
............The primary belief of difference is before the violence. If
there was no belief in difference there couldn't be any violence.
> The thought of separation is still a thought. But then you still have
>to deal with the Thinker of this thought. Who is that?
.............It is the momentum of misperception within the Self.
> To be against anything is to validate its apparent separation.
.............Fair enough. I should say when harmony meets disharmony the
harmony wins because it is the nature of Oneness.
> If the oneness has always been there, then the problems were never
>really present either.
..............I can think all soughts of things, and experience problems and
suffer, or I can realise a line of thought is wrong and stop it. So to with
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