advaitam and Kashmir shaivam (Idealism and Realism)

[Anand Hudli]

  Kartik wrote:

>This is correct in general, but not really correct according to Kantian
>Idealism.

>According to Kant, the "sensory data" is processed by the mind and the mind
>*creates* what is known as "the phenomenal world." The world which exists
>independently by itself is called "the noumenal world." Kant divides the
> "world" into two.

>In other words, what we "know" is the image the mind creates of the object.
>-->The object of our knowledge is a creation of the mind.

>But that doesn't mean that the "real object" (what Kant calls "the thing-in-
>itself") doesn't exist. We can say nothing about it, and it exists in
>the "world of the unknown" -- the noumenal world. This is the world beyond
> what the mind gives us knowledge of using the five senses and reason. Kant
>takes the stand,"I don't care what the noumenal world is. I live in the
>phenomenal world, which tells me there are objects embedded in space, time and
>causation. What is not known through the five senses and reason can never be
>known. I don't want to worry about it."

   Thanks for the clarification. I don't know much about Western Phil.
   The kind of subjective idealism I have heard is attributed to Berkeley.

>-Kartik

  Anand