Discussions on Advaita-L was (Re: New Member Introduction: An and Hari Ghalsasi)
Devendra Vyas
dev_vyas74 at HOTMAIL.COM
Tue Oct 26 23:46:41 CDT 1999
well said ananda hari ,i have the satisfaction that at least someone has
understood me correctly,don't feel sorry for speaking the truth,with best
wishes-devendra.
>From: anandharig <anandharig at INF.COM>
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>Subject: Re: Discussions on Advaita-L was (Re: New Member Introduction: An
> and Hari Ghalsasi)
>Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:48:00 +0530
>
>I'm sorry Mr Jaldhar !
>It all initiated by me.
>
>I was very new and had very bad experience of one such list.
>So I wrote about "Futile Debates" in my introduction.
>
>But One thing I strongly feel is, the course Of "Niti" and "Kartavyas"
>always change with time.
>We are supposed to understand the essence of them and go ahead with
>implementing it in our own way.
>
>So it does not matter if You Do "Agnihotra" before lunch or not but
>The concept of purity of food is important.
>
>I think when my friend Devendra says Not to discuss Karma he must have
>meant
>it this way.
>
>Regards
>Anand.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jaldhar H. Vyas [mailto:jaldhar at braincells.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 9:22 AM
> To: anandharig
> Subject: Re: Discussions on Advaita-L was (Re: New
>Member Introduction: Anand Hari Ghalsasi)
>
> On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, Devendra Vyas wrote:
>
> > dear ashish,
> > of course i agree with you that 1. will in
>due graduate to 2.
> > i.e., genuine advaita.i too have agreed that debates are
>not futile,but,it
> > is for us list members to introspect and answer the
>question:are we having
> > the debates and discussions that we should as followers
>of
>advaita,of
> > jnana,or are we getting trapped in discussions
> > that are in the preview of karma-kanda and the like or
>at
>least not in
> > keeping with the abstract,lofty philosophy of advaita.?
>
> If you take the trouble to examine what all the great
>teachers of Advaita
> Vedanta have said on the matter from Krishna Bhagawan in
>the
> Gita, to Shankaracharya to Shri Vidyaranya to the present
>day, they have
> unequivocally stated that karma and jnana are 100%
>incompatible. If one
> wishes to follow the jnaana marga, one must, not should,
>must renounce
> this world. It is only they who are beyond and thus can
>afford to ignore
> Karma. For all others (and this includes the vast
>majority
>of members of
> this list) doing ones duty is of paramount importance and
>one cannot
> wriggle out of it by claiming to be a jnani anymore than
>Arjuna could
> wriggle out of doing his duty by claiming to be a vairagi.
>
> > if the answer to this
> > question is that there is no harm in discussing
>karma-kanda and the
> > like,then fine,
>
> Not only is there no harm, there is benefit in
>understanding
>and
> practicing ones Dharma. It is adharma and inaction which
>are the cause
> of harm.
>
> > but then i feel we should drop the name :
> > advaita mailing list and take up the name:
> > "general purpose timepass mailing list".
>
> It is your understanding of Advaita Vedanta and its scope
>which needs
> revision. No true Advaitin would ever object to
>discussion
>and practice
> of karmayoga by those who are qualified for it and none
>ever
>have.
>
> i only wish that we discuss issues
> > of the loftiest knowledge,the sublime and not get stuck
>up
>in matters of
> > mere texttorturing and intellectual gymnastics but
>rather
>have stimulating
> > discussions and emails which provide food for thought
>and
>not junk for trash
>
> When you joined the list, you were given an introductory
>welcome message
> that explained what the list was about. If you have some
>contribution you
> can make which is on-topic for this list, please do so.
>You
>needn't wait
> for anyone.
>
> --
> Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at braincells.com>
>
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