ADMIN: Please stop discussions on Madhyamaka

Gregory Goode goode at DPW.COM
Tue Jun 27 08:21:24 CDT 2000

Thank you, Jaldhar, for this sound administrative guidance.  I agree that
the Madhyaika-related threads have run their course in this forum, and
welcome new topics at this point.  (However, if anyone would like to
continue the discussion of Madhyamika *outside* this forum in some way, you
can include my address <goode at>.)



At 12:10 AM 6/27/00 -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
>The threads on Madhyamaka have run their course now and worse are
>degenerating into name-calling so we must regretfully ask the participants
>to take them to email or some other forum.
>We do not like to practice censorship.  The list works best when people
>are free to express their opinions on the particular subjects they are
>interested in.  The only restriction is that the topic should be related
>to Advaita Vedanta.  It is the responsibility of every one of us to
>exercise some self-control in this regard and also in the manner in which
>we address our fellow list members[1].
>Although some list members were against it from the beginning I didn't see
>anything wrong in the comparison.  Various forms of Buddhism have had an
>impact on Advaita Vedanta's earlier history and it is common for people to
>mix up Buddhist and Vedantic ideas so it is quite legitimate to wonder
>about the relationship between the two.  Knowing that Nanda has studied
>the subject in depth I was confident he could do justice to it.  I would
>like to thank him and all those who responded to him.  I feel I have
>learned a lot from the exchange.
>But after all the many messages that have gone back and forth I think it
>is safe to say the central theses "Madhyamaka is the negative side of
>Advaita Vedanta" has not been proven.  Whether Buddhists believed in a
>contentless self, no self, or just equivocated on the subject this is a
>far cry from Advaita Vedanta which most assuredly does posit the existence
>of an eternal self of the nature of truth, pure consciousness and
>bliss.  And it doesn't just grudgingly accept the atma out of practical
>necessity but makes it the very linchpin of its theory.
>It's not that the subject isn't fascinating but it is now deemed beyond
>the scope of this list.  Please feel free to carry on in some other forum
>or privately if you like.

bhava shankara deshikame sharaNam

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