Bhakti yoga - reposting again

[kuntimaddi sadananda]

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> --- Stephanie Stean <cerebral_rose at MAC.COM> wrote:
> > Hello Sadananda:
> >
> > I have some questions.
> >
> > > In B.G. KrinshNa acutally outlines as only two
> > paths -
> > >
> > > lokesmin dwividhaa nishhTaa puraa proktaa maya
> > > anaghaa|
> > > jnaana yogena sankhyaanaam karma yogena
> yoginaam||
> >
> > Can you tell me where exactly this sloka is?
> Which
> > part of the B.G.?
> >
>
>  Stephanie -
>
> It is Ch. III - sloka 3
>
>
>
> >
> > > moksha kaaraNa saamaagryaam bhatireva gariiyasi|
> > > swaswaaruupaanu sandhaanaam
> bhatirityabhijiiyate||
> > >
> > > Of all the paths for moksha, Bhakti is the
> > supreme.
> > > That Bhakti is contemplation on ones ownself|
> >
> > I do not have this text yet (VevekachuuDaamani)
> but
> > I will soon.  Can you
> > explain the above idea a little more?  I want to
> > make sure I understand.
>
> Shankara strats saying of all the paths Bhakti is
> the
> most supreme - just by reading that adviatins may
> get
> startled.  But he goes on further defining what that
> Bhakti really means.  Bhakti involves contemplation
> and contemplation not on the iswara outside but on
> ones own essense since that is the ultimate since
> outside is just projection of what is inside.
>
>
> > If the 2 paths ultimately lead to jnana or pramA
> (or
> > 3 paths if some include
> > bhakti), then pramA is what we aspire to, right?
> > And if so, all aspire to
> > Knowledge, but disagreement occurs over marga or
> > path/ method.  Correct?
> >
> > Help me if I'm mistaken.  I understand it as:
> > No matter which path is chosen, either karma or
> > jnana (without delusion),
> > bhakti is an inherent part.
> > And no matter what path is chosen, jnana is the
> > ultimate aspiration.  It is
> > what is sought.
> J~naana is not something we aspire or seek. Since
> it is not j~naana as objective knowledge but j~naana
> that involves ones own identity.  Hence knower of
> Brahman becomes Brahman - whereas knower of
> chemistry
> cannot be Chemistry - since it is not that type of
> knowledge that we are seeking - but the type of
> knowledge that throws light about our own nature.
> Hence it is a realization of our own nature that we
> are Brahmna not an ego-centric individual with
> limitations - self-realization or realization of
> ones
> own self. That is what is implied in Shankara's
> definition of Bhakti.
>
> Hari OM!
> Sadananda
>
>
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