New member introduction: Venkatesh Mahadevan (fwd)

[Jaldhar H. Vyas]

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From: "Subrahmanian, Sundararaman V [IT]"
    <sundararaman.v.subrahmanian at citigroup.com>

Dear Sri Venkatesh,

While I am delighted that you have taken interest in this body of knowledge,
I would like to point out that there are enough resources in the USA -
various Ashrams, libraries, book shops, (some) teachers, Sanskrit learning
centers and mailing lists that help you learn.  Stay with this list for some
time and you will discover for yourself what I say.  You can post a request
to the list members asking for resources near your area of residence.  If
there are any who know about it, they may help you out with this.

And above all, pray for God's help and everything will fall in place.

Regards,
SVS
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On 6 Jan 2003, at 02:52, I wrote:


> On 4 Jan 2003 at 12:19, Ravi  wrote:
>
>
> > On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 16:40:47 -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas
> > <jaldhar at BRAINCELLS.COM> wrote:
> >
> > >On Mon, 30 Dec 2002, Vijay Naik wrote:
> > >
> > >> What is the meaning of Venkat?
> > >>
> > >
> > >It refers to His curly hair.
> > >
> > >--
> >
> > I am not sure if the above is correct. The two standard explanations I
> > have heard are:
> >
> > 1. vEm + kaTa + iishvara
> >
> > This is a part Tamil and part Sanskrit word. vEm in Tamil means dry or hot
> > and kaTam means forest. The hills are called vEnkaTam because of the type
> > of dry forest that dominates the mountains. Hence, Lord situated on the
> > hills is known as vEnkaTEshvara. The hill itself is called as
> > thiruvEnkaTam, vEnkaTaachala, vEnkaTaadri, etc. And he is referred to as
> > vEnkaTaachala nilayaa, shrii vEnkaTaa nivaasaa ( see suprabhaatam shrii
> > vEnkaTa nivaasaaya shriinivaasaaya mangaLam).  In this explanation the
> > Lord gets the name after the location. It should be noted that thiruppathi
> > is a traditional Tamil Land, even though it is in Andhra Pradesh in the
> > modern independent India; and vEnkaTa is a *tamil* word.
> >
> >
>
> I remember that kADu is the tamil word for forest.
> I did not find the meaning dry for the word vEM in the
> small tamil dictionary (visvanAtha piLLai) I have.
>
> Sarma.

In addition to kADu, kaDaM also means forest.
vEM means bamboo. So the name perhaps indicates that
there were bamboo forests on the seven hills and  it got its
name due to that. In sandhi vEmkaDaM becomes vEMgaDaM.

I would like to point out that telugu along with kannada and
malayalam is a dravidian language and old tamil is a common
property of all the four people. Claims such as tirupathi
is ancient tamil land and it is in Andhra Pradesh are to say the
least simplistic. Telugus, Kannadigas and Malayalees are as much
inheritors of the Dravidianl cultureand land as the tamilians are.

regards,

Sarma.
> > 2. vem + kaTa + iishvara
> >
> > This is a pure sanskrit form. Sanskrit has only one "e" (which is same as
> > Tamil "E"). vem means sin, kaTa is to destroy. And shrii venkaTeshvara is
> > one who destroys the sins of his devotees. If you search bhakti-list, you
> > will find a sanskrit definition of this meaning. In this case, the hill
> > gets its name after the lord.
> >
> > He also shows his hand at knee level denoting that he will destroy the
> > sins of the devotees and make the  deep samsara saagara as a shallow as
> > knee deep water to cross over.
> >
> >
> > My 2c.
> >
> > ravi at ambaa.org
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > End of ADVAITA-L Digest - 3 Jan 2003 to 5 Jan 2003 (#2003-3)
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> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Mon, 6 Jan 2003 06:15:59 +0000
> From:    =?iso-8859-1?q?Vijay=20Naik?= <vijay_naik1010 at YAHOO.COM>
> Subject: Re: Venkatesh or Vyankatesh ? and Why?
>
> ||AUM namo bhagavate vAsuDevAya||
>
> Namaskar,
>
> Many thanks for the replies.
>
> Please note that this name doesn't appear in "Vishnu
> SahastranAma".That's why I have query about it.
>
> I have one referance to the name Venkatesh:
>
> Padma Puran has a full length episode as to how Vishnu
> re-emerged as Venkatesh.
>
> Anybody has specific details about the name
> 'Venkatesh' from Padma-Purana?
>
> Secondly, is it a tadbhav roop of "Vaikunthesh" - the
> Lord of Vaikuntha?
> Like : SaMskrit 'Vishnu' - Pali 'ViNNHu' - Marathi
> 'Vitthalu' - 'Vitthal' of Pandharpur...
>
> In South India the Lord is called as "Venkatesh"
> whereas in north He is called as "Vyankatesh".
>
> If it would refer to his Curly hair it would have been
> 'Vaikuntaleshwara' - 'Kuntal' means Hair.
>
> AbhAr!
>
> --VSN
>
> -------------------------------------------
>
> --- "D.V.N.Sarma" <narayana at HD1.VSNL.NET.IN> wrote: >
> On 4 Jan 2003 at 12:19, Ravi  wrote:
> >
> >
> > > On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 16:40:47 -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas
> > > <jaldhar at BRAINCELLS.COM> wrote:
> > >
> > > >On Mon, 30 Dec 2002, Vijay Naik wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> What is the meaning of Venkat?
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >It refers to His curly hair.
> > > >
> > > >--
> > >
> > > I am not sure if the above is correct. The two
> > standard explanations I
> > > have heard are:
> > >
> > > 1. vEm + kaTa + iishvara
> > >
> > > This is a part Tamil and part Sanskrit word. vEm
> > in Tamil means dry or hot
> > > and kaTam means forest. The hills are called
> > vEnkaTam because of the type
> > > of dry forest that dominates the mountains. Hence,
> > Lord situated on the
> > > hills is known as vEnkaTEshvara. The hill itself
> > is called as
> > > thiruvEnkaTam, vEnkaTaachala, vEnkaTaadri, etc.
> > And he is referred to as
> > > vEnkaTaachala nilayaa, shrii vEnkaTaa nivaasaa (
> > see suprabhaatam shrii
> > > vEnkaTa nivaasaaya shriinivaasaaya mangaLam).  In
> > this explanation the
> > > Lord gets the name after the location. It should
> > be noted that thiruppathi
> > > is a traditional Tamil Land, even though it is in
> > Andhra Pradesh in the
> > > modern independent India; and vEnkaTa is a *tamil*
> > word.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I remember that kADu is the tamil word for forest.
> > I did not find the meaning dry for the word vEM in
> > the
> > small tamil dictionary (visvanAtha piLLai) I have.
> >
> > Sarma.
> > > 2. vem + kaTa + iishvara
> > >
> > > This is a pure sanskrit form. Sanskrit has only
> > one "e" (which is same as
> > > Tamil "E"). vem means sin, kaTa is to destroy. And
> > shrii venkaTeshvara is
> > > one who destroys the sins of his devotees. If you
> > search bhakti-list, you
> > > will find a sanskrit definition of this meaning.
> > In this case, the hill
> > > gets its name after the lord.
> > >
> > > He also shows his hand at knee level denoting that
> > he will destroy the
> > > sins of the devotees and make the  deep samsara
> > saagara as a shallow as
> > > knee deep water to cross over.
> > >
> > >
> > > My 2c.
> > >
> > > ravi at ambaa.org
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > End of ADVAITA-L Digest - 3 Jan 2003 to 5 Jan 2003
> > (#2003-3)
> > >
> >
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> > >
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