[Advaita-l] Tantra

[ravi chandrasekhara]

Dear All,

Why are there descriptions of "black magic" in our
scriptures ? I understand our scriptures may comment
on their existence but why are their detailed
descriptions on how to this or that, which would be
contrary to vedic morality ?

Ravi Chandrasekhara


--- "Jaldhar H. Vyas" <jaldhar at braincells.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, V. Krishnamurthy wrote:
> 
> > The Sri VidyA tantra has several greatnesses of
> which one
> > is the fact that it is the most concordant with
> the vedic
> > route. Of course all the tantras can be adapted to
> the
> > vedic route; but some of them do present obstacles
> to such
> > vedic adaptation. So there is a necessity to speak
> of
> > tantras which are concordant with vedic practices
> and which
> > are not. It was our Acharya who established the
> pure vaidic
> > pUjA and instilled life into it. It is true that
> even this
> > pUjA contains some of the mantras which owe their
> origin
> > to the tantra way. When he initiated the vaidic
> pUja
> > rituals in connection with the upAsanA following
> the
> > SriVidyA tantra, he followed only the samayAchAra
> > discipline.
> >
> 
> There are Buddhist, Jain and even Muslim tantras. 
> Amongst the "Hindu"
> tantras there are many which teach things contrary
> to Vedic morality
> (which is why to the man in the street, tantra ==
> "black magic")  But it
> is not the case that samayachara is the only Vedic
> tantric path.  A great
> scholar like Shri Bhaskararaya insists that
> kaulachara can also be
> concordant with Vedic practices and any apparently
> immoral tenets in it
> are meant to be understood only symbolically.
> 
> Btw, there is another classification of the Shaiva
> shastras as follows:
> 
> * 10 Shiva Agamas which teach dvaita siddhanta
> * 18 Rudra Agamas which teach a vishishtadvaita
> siddhanta
> 
> (These are the basis of Shaivasiddhanta, Kashmiri
> Shaivism etc.)
> 
> * 64 Bhairava Agamas or Tantras which teach advaita
> siddhanta.
> * The Vamakeshvari Tantra which is the essence of
> these 64 and the basis
>   of Shrividya.
> 
> -- 
> Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at braincells.com>
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