[Advaita-l] Re: Is an ISvara compatible with advaita?

[S Jayanarayanan]

I think you should know that advaita VedAnta upholds a 3-fold
logical system when it comes to explaining the duality of the
world.

Real : Brahman
Unreal: Jagat
anirvachanIya ("Indescribable", neither real nor unreal): avidyA

For this very reason, many get confused when starting to study
advaita, and their initial questions "prove" that advaita does
not fit into a 2-fold logical system. Shankara does not himself
talk about this 3-fold system, this is from the work of later
advaitins.

-Kartik

--- Amuthan Arunkumar R <aparyap at yahoo.co.in> wrote:

> namo nArAyaNAya
> 
> Dear SrI jayanArAyaNan,
> 
> thanks for the reference. i'm not convinced at all by
> the answers given so far, i guess no rational solution
> can be given to the question raised. it has to be
> found out directly for oneself by aparokshAnubhUti.
> 
> hari sarvatra,
> aparyAptAmr.ta
> 
>  --- S Jayanarayanan <sjayana at yahoo.com> wrote: 
> 
> > ---
> > Q: I see you doing things. How can you say that you
> > never
> > perform actions? 
> > A: The radio sings and speaks, but if you open it
> > you will find
> > no one inside. Similarly, my existence is like the
> > space; thou
> > this body speaks like the radio, there is no one
> > inside as a
> > doer. 
> > Q: I find this hard to understand. Could you please
> > elaborate on
> > 
> > this? 
> > A: Various illustrations are given in books to
> > enable us to
> > understand how the jnani can live and act without
> > the mind,
> > although living and acting require the use of the
> > mind. The
> > potter's wheel goes on turning round even after the
> > potter has
> > ceased to turn it because the pot is finished. In
> > the same way,
> > the electric fan goes on revolving for some minutes
> > after we
> > switch off the current. The prarabdha [predestined
> > karma] which
> > created the body will make it go through whatever
> > activities it
> > was meant for. But the jnani goes through all these
> > activities
> > without the notion that he is the doer of them. It
> > is hard to
> > understand how this is possible. The illustration
> > generally
> > given is that the jnani performs actions in some
> > such way 
> > as a child that is roused from sleep to eat eats but
> > does not
> > remember next morning that it ate. It has to be
> > remembered that
> > all these explanations are not for the jnani. He
> > knows and has
> > no doubts. He knows that he is not the body and he
> > knows that he
> > is not doing anything even though his body may be
> > engaged in
> > some activity. 
> > 
> > These explanations are for the onlookers who think
> > of the jnani
> > as one with a body and cannot help identifying him
> > with his
> > body. 
> > ---
> 
> 
> =====
> Amuthan Arunkumar R,
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> Department of Aerospace Engineering,
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