[Advaita-l] Science and Vedantha
mahesh.ursekar at gmail.com
Mon Nov 28 10:53:16 CST 2005
>> "Mental excercise is a good ladder, but it does not have the final
>> rungs. For that we need the "leap of faith"."
I would agree with this but would stop when faith is prefixed by blind.
Being a rationalist, I would require some reason for the faith in the words
of the guru or vedanta for that matter.
>> According to vedAnta this question has relevance only
>> within the dualistic perception or "mAyA". Outside of it, it has no
>> relevance, and the purpose of vedAntic teachings is to take us beyond,
>> so it is a minor matter that this question is not addressed by vedAnta
While I agree to the above, all I am doing is try to search for clues that
"the master has left behind" (so to speak) for the analytic among us who
wish to find clues as to how the fundamental assertion of Advaita can
be arrived at without recourse to the scriptures.
Two points I understand with regard to the quest:
As per the Gita - "I appear to each one in the way he or she worships me"
(sorry about it not being exact since I am not a devoted student of the
As per Sri Ramakrishna - "When the salt doll went to measure the depth of
the ocean, it became one with it"
So, my worship is the analytic technique while I am fully aware (if Advaita
is right :-) ), the best it can do is make me....silent.
Humble pranams, Mahesh
On 11/27/05, Aditya Varun Chadha <adichad at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/11/05, sriram <srirudra at vsnl.com> wrote:
> > Dear Members
> > SriMahesh Ursekar has asked whether vedantha can explain why are the
> laws of physics as they are.Simple.The laws of physics are Brahman made.
> At first, I thought that brAhmaN is not a doer, so nothing in a pure
> sense is "brAhmaN made". But you elaborate on this later in your mail,
> talking about the "bheetha" caused by the dualistic perception of
> brAhmaN. This "bheetha" whose cause is the dualistic perception, is
> the cause of this "creation", in other words, this "physics". Thank
> you for this perspective. This is a very good way of explaining the
> "role" of brAhmaN in the created universe I feel.
> The cause of bheetha is the observance of brAhmaN as a seperate entity
> from Atman. That is why "for the fear of brAhmaN the wind blows and
> the Sun shines". Once this duality is removed, there is no blowing of
> wind or shining of Sun, there is just brAhmaN.
> In the absolute sense it is like saying that Physics is as it is
> because we percieve it as so. So the laws of physics, while not being
> "brAhmaN made" in a strict sense, are the dualistic projection of
> brAhmaN. So asking "why are the laws of physics as they are?" is the
> same as asking "why do we dualistically perceive brAhmaN as we
> perceive it?". According to vedAnta this question has relevance only
> within the dualistic perception or "mAyA". Outside of it, it has no
> relevance, and the purpose of vedAntic teachings is to take us beyond,
> so it is a minor matter that this question is not addressed by vedAnta
> Ofcourse, all this is "told" to us by vedAnta, and if one wants to
> "understand" it, one has to subject vedAnta to the mind, which in
> itself is a dualistic construct. With mental endeavor we can go only
> so far. It is like superposition of quantum physics, as soon as
> something is observed, its state of superposition becomes
> unobservable. but it is from the "bheetha" of superposition that we
> derive our laws of quantum mechanics. Within the constraints of mAyA,
> faith is required, and that is why it is hard to "understand" vedAnta
> on a pure mental basis. Faith is required because of the
> unobservability of brAhmaN, the "superposition of all existance",
> because observation itself is dualistic action.
> Mental excercise is a good ladder, but it does not have the final
> rungs. For that we need the "leap of faith".
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