[Advaita-l] tradition, advaita, apauruSheyatva etc.

[elisabeth-sylvain at sympatico.ca]

dear Amuthan

(A) transcending all doctrines is necessary, but that is ONLY at the very 
END.

i agree.

(A) in fact, not adhering to a doctrine before having the necessary maturity 
is impossible.

You probably means the opposite. If yes, i also agree.

Sylvan

>From: Amuthan <aparyap at yahoo.co.in>
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>Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] tradition, advaita, apauruSheyatva etc.
>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 01:49:26 +0100 (BST)
>
>namo nArAyaNAya!
>
>dear shrI sylvan,
>
>--- elisabeth-sylvain_at_sympatico.ca wrote:
> >
> > " If there is doctrine, there is no way to attain
> > comprehension." (does
> > "comprehension" means "turyaga" here ?).
> >
>
>the interpretation depends on the context in which it
>was spoken. probably what AnandamayI mA means is that
>thougts 'destroy' as it were our natural state of
>being the self.
>
>transcending all doctrines is necessary, but that is
>ONLY at the very END. you use the term turyaga. if
>your source is yoga vAsiShTha, then going by it's
>terminology, one can say that doctrination is
>necessary until atleast sattvApatti (direct vision of
>the self) happens. even after that, one has to
>meticulously use Atma j~nAna to destroy latent vAsanAs
>and reach turyaga.
>
>in fact, not adhering to a doctrine before having the
>necessary maturity is impossible. this is because the
>'i am the body' idea is a fundamental and deep rooted
>'doctrine' that all of us have by default. in some
>sense, all sAdhana is only to remove this false
>doctrine that we uphold. mokSha (liberation) is the
>same as the destruction of all false doctrines and
>ideas ('mokSho.avidyA nivRttiH', to quote
>bhagavatpAda's bR.up. bhAShya), but to achieve that, a
>doctrine is necessary.
>
>vAsudevaH sarvaM,
>aparyAptAmRtaH.