[Advaita-l] Sankara on "After GYAna" (was Re: BrahmaGYAna and jIvanmukti - 1...)

S Jayanarayanan sjayana at yahoo.com
Thu Nov 16 12:30:49 CST 2006

--- bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com wrote:


> KJ prabhuji:
> I had already quoted Sankara's Brihadaranyaka Upanishad Bhashya a
> couple of times before. Here it is again:
> bhaskar :
> prabhuji I am requesting you to parallelly quote shankara bhAshya
> also
> while exploring the JMV...it is not on one instance live above...at
> every
> stage of your presentation of JMV if possible quote shankara
> bhAshya also
> from prasthAna traya...as said above, that would help us a lot to
> understand shankara's stand on these issues...Hope you would take
> care of
> this.
> As far as 1.4.7 of BU is concerned, we have had enough discussions
> on this
> issue earlier in this same list...

This will be my last posting on this topic.

I shall explain myself very clearly, and then leave it at that. This
is the FOURTH time (at least) that I'm posting this quote, so I will
make my question quite clear:

yady apy evaM SarIrAbdhakasya karmaNo niyata-phalatvAt
samyag-jnAna-prAptAv apy avaSyaM-bhAvinI-pravRttir
vA.n-manaH-kAyAnAm. labdha-vRtter karmaNo balIyastvAt, mukteShvAdi
pravRttivat. tena pakShe prAptaM jnAna-pravRtti-daurbalyaM. tasmAd
tyAga-vairAgyAdi-sAdhana-balAvalambena Atma-vijnAna-smRti-saMtatir
niyantavyA bhavati ...

The gist of the above quotation is, "even after the rise of right
knowledge (samyag-jnAna), due to the strong effect of prior karmA
(balIyastva), whose momentum is like that of a released arrow (mukta
iShu), and the relatively weakness of the newly acquired tendency
towards jnAna, it is necessary (niyantavyA) to maintain a steady
recollection of Self-knowledge (Atma-vijnAna-smRti-saMtati), assisted
by sAdhana-s like renunciation (tyAga), dispassion (vairAgya) and the

My question is:

"Why does Sankara talk about the effect of Karma AFTER THE RISE OF
SAMYAGGYANA - where the effect of Karma should not exist at all?"

(Note: I'm NOT INTERESTED in the topic of niyama vidhi here.)

In other words, since you claim to follow the great "shuddha Sankara
mArga", I AM CHALLENGING YOU to answer the question of why Sankara
speaks of ANYTHING after GYAna, when NOTHING BUT BRAHMAN remains.

(Note that for Sankara, Samyak-GYAna refers only to perfect
BrahmaGYAna and nothing else.)


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