[Advaita-l] Pramanas - Sruti vs. Anubhava

[Siva Senani Nori]

Sri Kathirasan,

praNAm.

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From: K Kathirasan NCS kkathir at ncs.com.sg


Namaste to all, 

Pls note the key point expressed by Savithriji so well: 

"Actually anubhava isn't an independent pramANa at all, in fact it is a
culmination of the pramANic transactions." 

* I am assuming that Sruti (or Sabda or AptavAkya), anubhava / pratyaksha, and anumAna are the three pramANas and that all vedantins agreed on that. Did His Holiness SSS teach that pramANas are only two either because anubhava = Brahman = Sruti, or because anubhava = sum of pramANic transactions, that is those related to Sruti and anumAna?

This understanding is very important in trying to understand the way
shabda pramana works. The rise of knowledge, when the Shabda pramana is
wielded, is immediate. Thus it is called as aparoksha jnana. Try to view
anubhava from this standpoint. Those who have studied SSS's works will
not get confused by that random quotation in question, which only does
disservice to his teachings. 

* Sir, since you imply that Sri Ramakrishnan had incorrectly presented Swamiji's views and I, quoting second hand, have done further injustice, it would be great if you please to present Swamiji's views correctly. 

After studying Ramakrishnanji's paper I realised that one of the
fundamental issues is the confusion about the immediacy of the rise of
knowledge. Many of us are perhaps finding it difficult to appreciate how
Shabda pramana and Guru vakya produce right knowledge immediately. 

* I guess it is a slightly different topic; I am unable to relate how immediacy or mediacy of the rise of knowledge is related to whether anubhava or Sruti is the kingpin amongst pramANas.

Regards
Senani

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