[Advaita-l] The essence of advaita

[prabha]

Ramanathn ji,

Its fair to say that this ignorance thing is really getting in the way of my
life (::)  - just kidding, but seriously, you may be right - this topic is
not for beginners.

Prabha

On 9/29/07, Ramanathan P <p_ramanathan at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> --- Ramanathan P <p_ramanathan at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >  how could the Atman which, in essence, is the
> > same infinite,  impenetrable, unaffected, unassailable,
> > all-knowing Brahman be deluded into a miserable state?
> >
> > Similarly for your suggestion that Brahman is
> > deluded
> > to a miserable state.
>
> Sorry to have misread/implied: you said the atman is
> in miserable state and not Brahman. The response may
> still have some relevance.
>
> Ramanathan
>
> > If we speak of atman, then we
> > have preaffirmed jiva and jagat, and in the light of
> > scripture, we may say that the "jiva" is deluded; a
> > beginningless delusion for it is simultaneous with
> > "jiva" or "atman" (time, causation, etc correspond
> > to
> > jiva-jagat alone).
> >
> > There is really no talk of Brahman at this stage,
> > except for intellectual guidance. Rather say
> > ishvara,
> > maya, etc. which are valid assessments parallel to
> > atman/mind-body and "its" misery. To talk of Brahman
> > and duality simultaneously (or in a causal manner)
> > may
> > be abuse of terminology and can lead to ill-founded
> > questioning. Verify such possibilities.
> >
> > Ramanathan
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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