[Advaita-l] nitya karma and job

[ravi chandrasekhara]

Dear All,
Pranam.  Latha brings up a good point.  Given that is mainly the current situation, are many of us violating varna dharma ?  Does it affect our adhikara (pertaining to dvijas) for sandhya, Gayatri, samskaras, etc ?

In addition there are many jatis that appear (traditionally)to have vaisya/kshatriya function and occupation but by varna are shudras.  How is that explainable ?

Any comment from acharyas or smritis that anyone may know ?

Dhanyavaad,
Ravi


--- On Wed, 7/2/08, latha vidyaranya <lathavidya at yahoo.co.in> wrote:

> From: latha vidyaranya <lathavidya at yahoo.co.in>
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] nitya karma and job
> To: "Advaita List" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 9:27 AM
> hari om
> namaste
>  
> that was an interesting explanation of sri bhaskarji about
> the swadharmaas that may fall under the nitya and
> naimittika karmas.
>  
> but i was talking about the current day jobs that we all do
> outside our homes to earn a living. the varnaashrama
> swadharmas are not very strictly followed. brahmins are
> also into trading and business and vysyas are also into
> teaching in various educational institutions and there are
> hardly any wars to be waged by a kshatriya (and the
> political scene is open to all irrespective of caste, creed
> or sex) and there is no particular demarcation of jobs to
> shudraas as they are also well educated now and are into
> all fields. in this scenario of modern day india /
> abroad, our earning the bread-butter-jam becomes more of a
> social obligation to take care of our families and
> communities and the larger interest of the nation. thus
> they may not fall under the nitya or naimittika, but surely
> are bound by the ethical frame of our dharma. 
>  
> namaste
> 
> --- On Wed, 2/7/08, Bhaskar YR
> <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com> wrote:
> 
> From: Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com>
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] nitya karma and job
> To: lathavidya at yahoo.co.in, "A discussion group for
> Advaita Vedanta"
> <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> Date: Wednesday, 2 July, 2008, 4:02 PM
> 
> 
> 
> whereas the occupational duties (our daily jobs) are not
> vaidhika karmas and hence do not fall under either nitya or
> naimittika karmas. they are vyavahaaric karmas to fulfill
> the social obligations. 
> 
> praNAms
> Hare Krishna
> 
> Interestingly, these social obligations or vyAvahArik
> karma-s are closely linked with one's own *svadharma*
> & seems to be obligatory!!..Though these karma-s cannot
> be strictly categorized as either nitya or naimittika
> karma-s, some smruti texts insisted the strict adherence to
> karma-s that is based on svadharma...For example, in gIta
> bhagavan forced arjuna to follow his svadharma i.e.
> fighting the battle...Being a kshatriya, arjuna had to
> fight the battle of kurukshEtra and krishna asked him to do
> the same..Likewise, being a brAhmaNa, one has to regularly
> perform hOma, havana, yAga-s etc., spread the message of
> scripture (dharma prachAra) etc because it is his
> svadharma..and being born as vaishya, one has to do
> vyavahAra (business) since it is his svadharma....I think,
> these are all as sri Jaldhar prabhuji pointed out comes
> under nitya/namittika karma category only...So, these
> social obligations are part & parcel of one's own
> svadharma if it is done with
>  an aim of protecting the same. (svadharma
> saMrakshaNArthaM). 
> 
> Comments & clarifications are welcome.
> 
> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> bhaskar
> 
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