[Advaita-l] the meaning trapped into the word

[Anbu sivam2]

Lathaji,

I agree about the revealation, however what is revealed is never to the mind
as the mind is incapable of grasping it.

A Rishi explains to us (which we assume has necessarily to be through the
mind) of what was revealed yet mind does not know of what it speaks!  The
mind in this case is at least reduced to an instrument of communication.  We
could in this instance agree with Marko that mind speaks of that which it
doesn't know.  But then when we speak of the Rishi we fail to notice that
neither the body nor the mind exists for Him!  Who put in a 'mind' for the
Rishi? Such is the wonderous power of the mind!

Anbu

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:13 AM, latha vidyaranya <lathavidya at yahoo.co.in>
wrote:

> hari om
> namaste
>
> different words have different meanings. but the light that illumines the
> meaning of these different words is the one and the only ONE. May be there
> are things that remain unknown to some people. but there can not be any
> thing unknown that is beyond our vedas. they are all-inclusive. and to the
> rishis of yore who had a one pointed zeal to know the unknown, it was
> revealed. till the point the magician decides to remove the mystery shrouded
> under the veil, it remains magical! once the veil is removed, the essence is
> untrapped and the magic, the magician and the viewer of the magic merge.
>
> namaste
>
> --- On Thu, 24/7/08, Marko Gregoric <markogregori at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Marko Gregoric <markogregori at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] the meaning trapped into the word
> To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> Date: Thursday, 24 July, 2008, 11:18 AM
>
> dear Anbu
> I agree that it makes no sense. That is the magic of the unknown. How
> can you know? You have no way to know. Mind only can know and you are
> not the mind, you have no way to know anything.
> Regards,
> Marko
>
> 2008/7/24, Anbu sivam2 <anbesivam2 at gmail.com>:
> > Marko, you have a problem.  If something remains always unknown, how do
> you
> > know it is there?
> >
> > You cannot say there is something out there but no one can know!  Whether
> we
> > would name it or not, it makes no sense.
> >
> > In Tamil there is a saying "POgaatha oorukku vazhi thEdaathE!".
> It means if
> > there is a town to which no one had gone, then don't bother looking
> for a
> > road to it!
> >
> > Anbu
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Marko Gregoric
> <markogregori at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> i will put it in a different way. All words have the same meaning
> >> which will always remain unknown. Do you agree?
> >>
> >> 2008/7/23, kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com>:
> >> > Marko - PraNAms
> >> >
> >> > The word is word only because the meaning is indicated by the
> word -
> >> > otherwise it is just bunch of letters with no meaning. Meaning is
> the
> >> > essence of the word and the world too, which is nothing but bunch
> of
> >> words -
> >> > names for forms. The meaning is beyond the word as the later is
> only a
> >> > pointer to the meaning or its essence. The essence or the meaning
> is the
> >> > truth of the word and the world, too. aitadaatmyamidagam sarvam -
> tat
> >> satyam
> >> > - sa aatma - tat tvam asi Swetakeo.  The essence of this entire
> world or
> >> > words is nothing but the very core which is the truth and that
> YOU ARE.
> >> > Without the word, the truth of the word cannot be communicated,
> by the
> >> > shruti.
> >> >
> >> > Hari Om!
> >> > Sadananda
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- On Wed, 7/23/08, Marko Gregoric
> <markogregori at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> What is That which is touched by the meaning released from
> >> >> the word(s)?
> >> >> How can That be expressed with words? I think it can't.
> >> >> What do you think?
> >> >>
> >> >
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