[Advaita-l] Fw: Re: nitya karma and job

[ravi chandrasekhara]

Dear All,

I am reposting as I do not think it went through.

Dhanyavaad,
Ravi Chandrasekhara

--- On Sun, 7/13/08, ravi chandrasekhara <vadhula at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: ravi chandrasekhara <vadhula at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] nitya karma and job
> To: lathavidya at yahoo.co.in
> Cc: advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org, vadhula at yahoo.com
> Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 9:24 PM
> Dear All,
> Pranam.  Latha brings up a good point.  Given that is
> mainly the current situation, are many of us violating
> varna dharma ?  Does it affect our adhikara (pertaining to
> dvijas) for sandhya, Gayatri, samskaras, etc ?
> 
> In addition there are many jatis that appear
> (traditionally)to have vaisya/kshatriya function and
> occupation but by varna are shudras.  How is that
> explainable ?
> 
> Any comment from acharyas or smritis that anyone may know ?
> 
> Dhanyavaad,
> Ravi
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 7/2/08, latha vidyaranya
> <lathavidya at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> 
> > From: latha vidyaranya <lathavidya at yahoo.co.in>
> > Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] nitya karma and job
> > To: "Advaita List"
> <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> > Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 9:27 AM
> > hari om
> > namaste
> >  
> > that was an interesting explanation of sri bhaskarji
> about
> > the swadharmaas that may fall under the nitya and
> > naimittika karmas.
> >  
> > but i was talking about the current day jobs that we
> all do
> > outside our homes to earn a living. the varnaashrama
> > swadharmas are not very strictly followed. brahmins
> are
> > also into trading and business and vysyas are also
> into
> > teaching in various educational institutions and there
> are
> > hardly any wars to be waged by a kshatriya (and the
> > political scene is open to all irrespective of caste,
> creed
> > or sex) and there is no particular demarcation of jobs
> to
> > shudraas as they are also well educated now and are
> into
> > all fields. in this scenario of modern day india /
> > abroad, our earning the bread-butter-jam becomes more
> of a
> > social obligation to take care of our families and
> > communities and the larger interest of the nation.
> thus
> > they may not fall under the nitya or naimittika, but
> surely
> > are bound by the ethical frame of our dharma. 
> >  
> > namaste
> > 
> > --- On Wed, 2/7/08, Bhaskar YR
> > <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com> wrote:
> > 
> > From: Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] nitya karma and job
> > To: lathavidya at yahoo.co.in, "A discussion group
> for
> > Advaita Vedanta"
> > <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> > Date: Wednesday, 2 July, 2008, 4:02 PM
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > whereas the occupational duties (our daily jobs) are
> not
> > vaidhika karmas and hence do not fall under either
> nitya or
> > naimittika karmas. they are vyavahaaric karmas to
> fulfill
> > the social obligations. 
> > 
> > praNAms
> > Hare Krishna
> > 
> > Interestingly, these social obligations or vyAvahArik
> > karma-s are closely linked with one's own
> *svadharma*
> > & seems to be obligatory!!..Though these karma-s
> cannot
> > be strictly categorized as either nitya or naimittika
> > karma-s, some smruti texts insisted the strict
> adherence to
> > karma-s that is based on svadharma...For example, in
> gIta
> > bhagavan forced arjuna to follow his svadharma i.e.
> > fighting the battle...Being a kshatriya, arjuna had to
> > fight the battle of kurukshEtra and krishna asked him
> to do
> > the same..Likewise, being a brAhmaNa, one has to
> regularly
> > perform hOma, havana, yAga-s etc., spread the message
> of
> > scripture (dharma prachAra) etc because it is his
> > svadharma..and being born as vaishya, one has to do
> > vyavahAra (business) since it is his svadharma....I
> think,
> > these are all as sri Jaldhar prabhuji pointed out
> comes
> > under nitya/namittika karma category only...So, these
> > social obligations are part & parcel of one's
> own
> > svadharma if it is done with
> >  an aim of protecting the same. (svadharma
> > saMrakshaNArthaM). 
> > 
> > Comments & clarifications are welcome.
> > 
> > Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> > bhaskar
> > 
> > 
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