[Advaita-l] Advaita-l Digest, Vol 61, Issue 20

[Anbu sivam2]

I find it extremely disappointing to know that many of the 'brahmanas' of
this forum are stuck with the seculars ideas of who a brahmin or a sudhra is
on the basis of mere occupation instead of the guna that drives each person
(i.e. his body and mind) to enjoy and suffer his poorva karma.  The body and
mind made of the guna stuff become the vehicle for each to enjoy or suffer
(BOgam).  This intrinsic stuff is unalterable even when a person changes his
occupation.  (As Bhagavan Ramana said: You can do what you like but the
outcome will always be the same.) (Karthur aagnyayaa praapyathE phalam karma
kim param? karma thajjadam.)
Varnasrama dharma is eternal for it is god's creation.  It can decline but
not be destroyed.

Knower of this truth will be on the side of Dharma and will want it
reinstated.

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 5:59 AM, Vishy <vishy1962 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Dear Shankar
>
>
> You are right, but with one correction....  All of us are not shdhrs as
> they aim is said to be said to be only serving the society without
> bargaining for anything inreturn, but  all all of us can be branded
> (including those who are born shudras) as vysyas whoo trade sell some thing
> inreturn .... ya, we sell ourselves(in the name of services) for negotiated
> price (call it cooli / salary/ wage whatever).
>
> In that way if we look in there are no Brakmanas, Kshatriyas or shudras
> anymore
> anywhere
>
>
> Vish
>
> --- On Mon, 24/8/09, P.S.Shankar <shankar at tataelxsi.co.in> wrote:
>
>
> From: P.S.Shankar <shankar at tataelxsi.co.in>
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Advaita-l Digest, Vol 61, Issue 20
> To: advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
> Date: Monday, 24 August, 2009, 10:07 AM
>
>
>
> Dr.Yadu Moharir -  Wrote >>>
>
> "I know all of us though born in Brahman families and have undergone
> upanayana samskaraara, did sandhyaavadanama,?do?clean toilets in US?need to
> be classified as?"shudra" !!
>
> Yes, we are and I believe everyone in this era are so. since very few are
> following there respective varna dharma.
>
> Most of work and get paid for livelihood. and do  get alms for the same.
> Hence I assume we are all shudras.
>
> Regards,
> Shankar.
>
>
>
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