[Advaita-l] Dr Mani Dravid
Vidyasankar Sundaresan
svidyasankar at hotmail.com
Fri Mar 13 22:42:37 CDT 2009
Dear Sri Devanathan,
Apart from the opinions of Shri Mani Dravid with respect to
the pancapAdikA and the Holenarsipur school, and apart
from whether he is pro-vivaraNa or anti-bhAmatI, I think
you are overstating the case about trivRtkaraNa. This is
clearly an ativyApti here. Have you read my paper in
Philosophy East and West, titled "What determines
Sankara's authorship - The case of the Pancikarana"?
An impartial reader of that paper is free to disagree with
my conclusions about how to decide the authorship of a
text attributed to Sankara, but if he is really impartial, he
has to give up this baseless dispute about pancIkaraNa vs.
trivRtkaraNa. I have shown, with extensive quotations and
discussion, that the bhAshyakAra gives equal weight to
pancIkaraNa in the chAndogya bhAshya. The sUtra says
trivRtkurvata, because the vishaya vAkya there is from the
chAndogya. The bhAshyakAra does not need to say anything
about pancIkaraNa in the sUtrabhAshya, because the sUtra
is not about the process of trivRtkaraNa per se, but about
that brahman who sets it into motion.
However, in chAndogya bhAshya, where the subject matter
is the process of trivRtkaraNa itself, the bhAshyakAra feels
it necessary to add an explanatory statement about
pancIkaraNa also. He does not say that pancIkaraNa is
wrong and trivRtkaraNa is right, but he says that a samAna
nyAya applies to both. Unless you are going to argue that
the Sankara who wrote the chAndogya bhAshya may have
been different from the one who wrote the sUtra bhAshya,
you cannot say that Sankara endorses only trivRtkaraNa.
I have read the relevant portions of bhAmatI too, and I don't
see vAcaspati miSra having a preference for trivRtkaraNa over
pancIkaraNa anywhere. As far as I can see, bhAmatI does not
even bring up pancIkaraNa, just as the sUtrabhAshya itself
does not touch upon it. However, an argument against a
concept based upon silence with respect to it is not at all
valid. After all, the same bhAshyakAra does say that an
equivalent logic applies to pancIkaraNa in a different text,
and I would imagine that such a scholarly and widely read
author as vAcaspati miSra would have surely known about
it before he even started writing the bhAmatI.
Please do let me know if I may have missed some reference in
the bhAmatI in this context.
Vidyasankar
> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 07:26:50 +0530
> From: sathvatha at gmail.com
> To: advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
> Subject: [Advaita-l] Dr Mani Dravid
>
> Hari OM~
> Shri Ramakrishnan ji and Shri Subramanian ji,
>
> As far as I know Shri Mani Dravid is an ardent follower of the Vivarana
> tradition. He is opposed to the Bhamati prasthana. He has written few papers
> lamenting the limitations (so-called) of Bhamati. I have spoken to him on
> few crucial issues on Bhamati and Vivarana differences. In my view I
> strongly subscribe to Vacaspati's views on Mula-avidya-tula-vidya
> bifurcation and the avidya-(jiva)asraya theory upon which the internal
> differences in Advaita is largely based. Vacaspati's classification on the
> two-fold avidya 'anirvAcyAvidyAdvividha' is more logical and convincing and
> i insist that it ought to be read with Kalpataru and Abhoga. Further with
> regards to the metaphysics, Trvrtkarana is clearly endorsed by the
> Sutra-kara with full Sankara-sammati as found in the bhasya. The so-called
> Suresvara tradition as promulgated by SSS taking full-rights n patent can
> mean nothing to Sastraic scholars. SSS is not a tradition per-se but just an
> offshoot of non-Pancapadika movement.
>
> With Narayana Smrti,
> Devanathan.J
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