[Advaita-l] family love

[Sunil Bhattacharjya]

Dear Vaidehiji,

"Samyak jnana" was used only to mean "proper understnding of the concept". I think a detailed thesis on the word "Samyak" is not necessary.

Secondly "see through Maya" was used to mean to know what is Maya and that is possible only when one develops the Sattva guna.

In the maze of arguments and quotations one should not mess the concept.  One who has understood the concept of Maya properly is a Brahmajnani and he will not need to read the scriptures even.

Regards,

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

--- On Mon, 3/30/09, vaidehi chaitanya <vaidehi.chaitanya at gmail.com> wrote:

From: vaidehi chaitanya <vaidehi.chaitanya at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] family love
To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 12:19 PM

hari om sunil bhattacharyaji

a small clarification here i wish to give. there is nothing called
samyak knowledge of maya. in fact maya is avidya (see yogavasista
original). there is no samyak knowledge of avidya for it means self
contradiction.

In yogavasista, sri vashihsta says to rama in utpatti prakarana
chapter, sloka 1.20

avidyA samsrutrbanDo mAyA mOhO mahattamaH
kalpitaaniiti naamaani yasyaaH sakalavedibhiH.

of which (of the world which is illusory in nature) several names have
been coined by the learned: avidya (ignorance), samsruti
(transmigration), bandhaH (bondage), mAyAillusion), mohaH (delusion),
mahat (great), tamaH (darkness).

creation is maya. there is nothing to see through maya. Infact, to
stop seeing maya is advaita.

may be it is necessary to stop here for intellectual discussions
should necessarilyaim at  stop the ripples of thoughts arising.

thanking you

vaidehi













On 3/30/09, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I think Jaldharji and Vaidehiji are talking about the same thing. Yes,
> mother's selfless love for the child is the first step towards Advaita. One
> learns the first step of selfless love from that. When all other creations
> are treated like-wise, ie. like one's very own, then it becomes universal
> love. At that stage one gets rid of the the separateness or otherness and
> becomes Samadarshana and can see through Maya, ie. realise that there are no
> real  differences between the various creations. As long as this samyak
> knowledge of Maya is not achieved what persists is Avidya and there is
> Vasana.
>
> Sunil K. Bhattacharjya
>
> --- On Sun, 3/29/09, vaidehi chaitanya <vaidehi.chaitanya at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: vaidehi chaitanya <vaidehi.chaitanya at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] family love
> To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta"
> <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> Date: Sunday, March 29, 2009, 8:35 AM
>
> hari om
>
> it is in the way we look at things. love and affection for parents,
> siblings and even spouse - is it or is it not vasana or maya. Infact,
> call by any name - vasana or maya  they both mean the same. mandukya
> upanishad calls it spandana (vibration). the bhavana behind is what
> makes a difference to the affection or love you show to others. remove
> the otherness from the love or affection, it is pure, self existent
> and self effulgent. this is the effort we the seekers should attempt
> in our every day transcational world.
>
> vaidehi chaitnaya
>
>
> On 3/29/09, Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at braincells.com> wrote:
>> [was: (no subject)]
>>
>> On Fri, 20 Mar 2009, vijaya1.kambhampati at tiscali.co.uk wrote:
>>
>>> Could you please tell me whether the affection we feel for our mother
>>> father friends siblings and others is only maya and a creation of our
>>> vasanas or whether it has a reality that transcends maya. Do we ever
>>> meet these individuals again after death and become one with them.
>>>
>>
>> If we desire it than yes.  But like all desires it is a fetter that binds
>> us to samsara and must be transcended for mukti.  The way to do it is not
>> necessarily to stop loving but to extend the love so that all living
>> things are thought of as ones family.
>>
>> If you think about it isn't a mothers' selfless love our first
>> introduction to advaita bhava?
>>
>> --
>> Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at braincells.com>
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