[Advaita-l] waking, dreaming, sleeping, as mutually supportive

Vidyasankar Sundaresan svidyasankar at hotmail.com
Wed Oct 14 08:59:29 CDT 2009

To Michael's question, 

> > > Would you agree that turiya/atman is closer to us than we pretend?

Ramakrishnan responded, 

> > It is actually the other way around. Turiya is "further away" than
> > many of us like to pretend!

to which AnbuSivam rejoins, 


> Thinking it is difficult is the greatest impediment. Guru is indeed needed
> but the Guru is no substitute for the person who should first have the
> craving. How can one crave if the intellect raises obstacles?


I can only quote muNDaka 3.1.7, dUrAt sudUre tad ihAntike ca

Remember the Atman beyond the usually experienced jAgrat, svapna and sushupti states is brahman. It is nearer than the nearest and is farther than the farthest!  



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