[Advaita-l] A perspective -20
ksadananda108 at gmail.com
Mon Feb 22 19:37:04 CST 2010
Anbuji - PraNAms -
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Anbu sivam2 <anbesivam2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> "Paramaarthika sattha is beyond the reach of the human mind and it is
> unnegateable. Yet the intellect can infer that this is the only Reality
> that is FULL." There are a lot of Vedic pramanas to support this view and
> am sure you will agree.
Here is my perspective for clarification.
The statement - Yet the intellect can infer that this is the only reality
that is full - cought my attention.
I must say it is not inference by the intellect. It is the direct perception
as in the tenth man. I see directly the light of consciousness as saakshii
as reflected illumination by the mind or intellect - just as during the day
time the house is bright by the reflected sunlight all over -I say I see the
the sunlight is all over even the sun is directly not seen- cannot be seen
All pervading consciousness cannot be -seen-. Yet using the mind as
reflecting mediuam I see the light of consciousness that is getting
reflected in every thought that rises in the mind. I am neither known nor
unknown but the very knowing principle - says Kena.
> The aim is to lose the ignorance of you being the tenth man. As the story
> points out the intellect is not the only way to lose that ignorance. In all
> our scriptures they proclaim loudly the importance of the role of this
> Chaithanyam viz. the Guru that removes the ignorance. Simply,
> "Aachaaryavaan PurushO Vedha:"
> In respect of the intellect please do not forget that it belongs to the
> prakrthi. The dormant intellect is of thaamasic nature getting swept away
> by the forces of nature. As Bhagavan Ramana says: 'Dehaathma
> buddhEgnyajadau samaanau'.
> So this intellect is sought to be awakened by means of prayer to Savithri
> the Gayathri manthra. The swabhaavam of the active intellect is to
> discriminate. The final discrimination would be for it to discriminate
> between the Real and the unreal like the kindling wood that releases the
> fire but as you would know that this kidling wood has also to be consigned
> into that fire!
> Yet in all these processes you would notice that the intellect as the inert
> entity has no way of doing anything on its own!!
> Actually the entire mithya of jagath has been perfected and upheld by this
> intellect. Can you deny it? The intellect is much rather a generator of
> falsehood and that is its swaroopa lakshanam. One should stop fooling
> around with that.
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Kuntimaddi Sadananda <
> ksadananda108 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Shree Ambuji - PraNams
> > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Anbu sivam2 <anbesivam2 at gmail.com>
> > > Perhaps my earlier posting on Sivaanandhalahari dealing with this
> > > in
> > > three parts may be of help.
> > Perhaps.
> > > . Advaitha teaches us that giving up the intellect enables one
> > > to become one with this Reality.
> > >
> > I think it has already been pointed that what is to be given up is not
> > intellect but misconceptions of the intellect. With intellect only one
> > to realize. Without the intellect - one is as good as animal - budhyaa
> > vihiinaaH pashubhi samaanaaH - says niiti vaakyam.
> > With mind alone one need to realize. without the mind reflecting the
> > illuminating consciousness, one cannot recognize the all pervading light
> > consciousness. With mirro alone one can see the face - one should not
> > misunderstand that image is the real. Similalry with the reflecting
> > consciousness in the intellect, one has to use viveka to shift attention
> > the original using that very reflection. That is what nitya anitya vastu
> > viveka involves. Giving up the image as not the original is sanyaasa.
> > Shifting attention to the orginal using the image reflection is yoga.
> > The mithyaa aspect discussed was from adviata siddhi - definitions of
> > falsity.
> > Hope this helps
> > Hari Om!
> > Sadananda
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