[Advaita-l] Questions on Mayavada.
Sunil Bhattacharjya
sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com
Mon Nov 8 01:37:16 CST 2010
Dear Sivasenaniji,
I am happy to know now that you are a great scholar and henceforth I shall not contest your views. You found me opinionated and expressed it and I also thought you to be opinionated and did not express it so far. That is a big difference between you and me. Why do you presume that I do not want to answer Srikantaji's request. You have conveniently forgotten that It was I who asked him about the concept of Kaya in Mahayana Buddhism. As you are a great scholar kindly tell me was there any need for Srikantaji to bring in Jainism into the discussion on Mahayana Buddhism? You might have noticed that earlir also he brought Hinayana Buddhism into the discussions on Mahayana Buddhism. That is why I showed my resentment. Let him show his scholarship in the area under discussion. Adi Sankaracharya showed his scjholarship and went to Mandana Mishra and defeated him. As the need arose he even did the parakayapravesh but did not give up arguing till he won.
That tradition is from Adi Sankaracharya's time. I only objected to Srikrishnaji's digressing from the discussions. If I have shown my scholarship to you don't you think you too should have your scholarship to me and defeated me rather than fretting and venting your grievances later on.
According to my understanding the Mahayana Buddhism believes in three Kayas. One of them refers to the physical manifestation or the physical body (the Nirmanakaya), the second refers to the sense body (Sambhoga-kaya) and the third refers to the body which represents the ultimate truth or the Buddha-awareness, when the Shunyata is achieved. The last body is therefore the truth-body (Dharma-kaya) or or the Buddha-mind or the Buddha-awareness (Bodha-kaya). When Shunyata is achieved there is only the Buddha-awareness or Prajna. In Hinduism Prajna is Brahman. "Prajnanam Brahma". Lord Buddha did not use the word Brahma. You must be knowing that Lord Krishna used the word Brahma-Nirvana whereas Lord Buddha used the word Nirvana. One European scholar went to the exient of telling that Lord krishna's Brahmanirvana uses the wrod "Nirvana" first used by Lord Buddha. I presume you know all this that Lord krishna preceded Lord Buddja by more than a millennium. If
you think that I am wrong kindly do me the favour of correcting me. Please do not feel that I shall take umbrage at it . I am the last person to fret.
I only wonder that if you thought that I do not know anything about Buddhism and you also thought that I am unable to give reply to Srikantaji then I why did not you yourself give the answer to Srikantaji ?
Regards,
Sunil K. Bhattacharjya
--- On Sun, 11/7/10, Siva Senani Nori <sivasenani at yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Siva Senani Nori <sivasenani at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Questions on Mayavada.
To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
Date: Sunday, November 7, 2010, 7:34 PM
I want to express my resentment of Mr. Sunil Bhattacharjya's presumptive and
opinionated statements where he thinks some other list member has not studied /
understood this or that; or that for some other scholar joining the list is
beneath his scholarship; or constantly asking for proof, without offering it
himself or without substantiating his explanations. For the strong opinions he
expresses abuot others knowledge and understanding there is amazingly little
scholarly input from him in at least backing up such statements. Going by past
form, I would expect him to ignore the specific request of Mr. Srikanta to
explain Dharmakaya, but such is unbecoming of somebody who threw the challenge
that Mr. Srikanta does not understand "Dharmakaya".
Time, he put up or shut up.
There is a little history behind it. Earlier he (Mr. Bhattacharjya) accused me
of not reading Abhinava Gupta's commentary on the Bhagavat Gita. When I followed
up with a detailed explanation there was total silence. The irony is that Mr.
Srikanta himself indulges in such presumptive statements; he had earlier hinted
that I did not read Mandukya Upanishad, and when I posted back saying that I
indeed did and that I did post with reference to some obscure aspects,
there was silence. Neither of them so much as ackowledged the fact or bothered
to say that the slur against me was incorrect.
I hope we will see less of such posts in this forum.
N. Siva Senani
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From: srikanta <srikanta at nie.ac.in>
To: advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
Sent: Sun, November 7, 2010 12:08:31 PM
Subject: [Advaita-l] Questions on Mayavada.
Dear sunil Bhattacharji,
While explaining the description of Dharmakaya,I have followed the books
on Buddhism.Dharmakaya is the entity encompassing Physical,mental and the
intellectual faculties,with which a being function,which is called a
"Dharma"in Buddhist parlance.Dharma in short(it is not charity as we
ordinarily use)any being or Atma which funtion in the world for its
sustenance and safety is denoted by "Dharmakaya".
If it is not, why don't you explain?
N.Srikanta.
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