[Advaita-l] Knowledge, renunciation and varNASrama rules

Suresh Marur suresh.marur at gmail.com
Tue Sep 14 03:27:02 CDT 2010

Shree Jaldhar,

Thanks for your response. I agree with both your comments below. I had got a
little vexed with the tone and tenor of the discussion and probably used a
word like garbage more as a reaction than a considered opinion. Your
description of vairagya is spot on.

As for the question on answering the question because one asks, I believe
only a person who is truly bhahmanishta should answer the question. All
other discussions will be a case of one blind man leading another one. Since
I cannot claim to be a gnani, I cannot see myself responding to such a


- Suresh

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at braincells.com>wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Suresh Marur wrote:
>  Sanyasa to me is a state of mind when there is nothing more important to
>> the
>> individual than the pursuit of the truth and is ready to give up
>> everything.
>> The giving up is again not conscious giving up. It appears to others that
>> the person is giving up. To the person himself, truth is of highest value
>> and giving up of "things" is actually dropping unwanted garbage.
> I agree with the substance of what you wrote, but with just one caveat.
> While you do find some negative comments about the world in the shastras,
> they on the whole do give the world higher status than just garbage.
> Perhaps a better analogy is to toys?  As a child you are obsessed with toys
> and as you become more mature you leave them behind.  But you do not hate
> them.  You may even buy them for your children even though you have no use
> for them yourself.  In such a way, a sannyasi has no need for the fleeting,
> perishable things of the world.  As Ishopanishad 1, says, mA grdha
> kaschasviddhanaM "Do not covet, for whose is wealth?"  If one can meditate
> successfully on this question "whose is wealth?" vairagya becomes natural.
>  All advaita is eventually a question of personal growth leading to total
>> annihilation of the ego and realizing "Aham Brahma Asmi" and living it
>> every
>> moment. Sitting in agyana, we cannot ask the question on whether someone
>> else has the right to become a sanyasi. That question is for the
>> individual
>> to ask.
> Nevertheless when the individual asks it, there should be an answer no?
> --
> Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at braincells.com>
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