[Advaita-l] Advaita-l Digest, Vol 78, Issue 27
Arun (Mahadev) Tammannavar
arun.tamannavar at gmail.com
Tue Feb 8 23:28:43 CST 2011
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Arun (Mahadev) Tammannavar <
arun.tamannavar at gmail.com> wrote:
> Re: World Muslim Pupulation doubling
>
> Yes it is true that Muslims are multiplying population. That too at bottom
> of pyramid. Educated and well to do muslims are not having more than two
> children is also mostly true. And vote bank lies in bottom of pyramid of
> muslim population. In view of Islam the world is divided in two parts (1)
> Darul Islam (world having muslim rule) and (2) Darul Harb (non muslim world)
> and it is ultimate aim of all muslims to convert Darul harb to Darul Islam.
> This is basic answer to the multiplication of muslim population.
>
> ArunTamannavar
> .
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:30 PM, <
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>> 1. World Muslim Population Doubling (Venkatesh Murthy)
>> 2. Re: World Muslim Population Doubling (Mahesh Ursekar)
>> 3. Re: World Muslim Population Doubling (D.V.N.Sarma ??.??.???.????)
>> 4. Re: World Muslim Population Doubling (Mahesh Ursekar)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:57:25 +0530
>> From: Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Advaita-l] World Muslim Population Doubling
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>> http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/27/world-muslim-population-doubling-report-projects/?hpt=Sbin
>>
>> Muslims are multiplying. But Brahmins/Hindus are obeying Government in
>> family planning. They must see how the Govt. of India is decieving us.
>> Reducing Brahmin population and increasing the so called minority vote
>> bank. Brahmins must stop family planning and have children like our
>> Grandfather's generation had. If there is only one child per family
>> chance of Dharma surviving is not good. Let Dharma be protected
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>>
>> -Venkatesh
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 22:58:08 +0530
>> From: Mahesh Ursekar <mahesh.ursekar at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] World Muslim Population Doubling
>> To: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta
>> <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
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>> So, r u saying only Hindu Brahmins protect dharma? And Muslims don't? And
>> then again, does quantity help your cause? Or do you care about quality
>> here? And lastly, did u read the full article? It says:
>>
>> *"The increase in the last 20 years is greater than what we expect in the
>> next 20 years," he said. Muslim population growth "is a line that's
>> flattening out. They're increasing, but they're getting closer to the
>> norm,
>> the average."*
>> *In other words, Muslims are coming into line with global trends toward
>> fewer children per woman and an aging population. But, the report points
>> out, because of the existing Muslim "youth bulge," or unusually high
>> percentage of young people, Muslim population growth has a certain
>> momentum
>> that will take decades to come into line with world averages - if it ever
>> does"*
>>
>> You are likely to jump at the last line, above. But I'm optimistic in that
>> "if it ever does" will certainly happen as it becomes blatantly evident
>> that the earth has only limited resources and can't sustain such large
>> populations..
>>
>> In closing, it would be amazing for me to find that Muslim's make babies
>> just to spread their religion. I have Muslim friends, none of who have
>> more
>> than 2 children. And as far as I know, most Muslims in India with large
>> families are those at the bottom of the economic & education scale. It
>> would
>> be more effective to control their population by giving them education &
>> jobs rather than crying murder about their population increasing!
>>
>> Best, Mahesh
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/27/world-muslim-population-doubling-report-projects/?hpt=Sbin
>> >
>> > Muslims are multiplying. But Brahmins/Hindus are obeying Government in
>> > family planning. They must see how the Govt. of India is decieving us.
>> > Reducing Brahmin population and increasing the so called minority vote
>> > bank. Brahmins must stop family planning and have children like our
>> > Grandfather's generation had. If there is only one child per family
>> > chance of Dharma surviving is not good. Let Dharma be protected
>> >
>> > --
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > -Venkatesh
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>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 23:06:54 +0530
>> From: D.V.N.Sarma ??.??.???.???? <dvnsarma at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] World Muslim Population Doubling
>> To: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta
>> <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
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>> Is this post relevant to the
>> objectives of this list?
>>
>> regards,
>> Sarma.
>> On 1/31/11, Mahesh Ursekar <mahesh.ursekar at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > So, r u saying only Hindu Brahmins protect dharma? And Muslims don't?
>> And
>> > then again, does quantity help your cause? Or do you care about quality
>> > here? And lastly, did u read the full article? It says:
>> >
>> > *"The increase in the last 20 years is greater than what we expect in
>> the
>> > next 20 years," he said. Muslim population growth "is a line that's
>> > flattening out. They're increasing, but they're getting closer to the
>> norm,
>> > the average."*
>> > *In other words, Muslims are coming into line with global trends toward
>> > fewer children per woman and an aging population. But, the report points
>> > out, because of the existing Muslim "youth bulge," or unusually high
>> > percentage of young people, Muslim population growth has a certain
>> momentum
>> > that will take decades to come into line with world averages - if it
>> ever
>> > does"*
>> >
>> > You are likely to jump at the last line, above. But I'm optimistic in
>> that
>> > "if it ever does" will certainly happen as it becomes blatantly evident
>> > that the earth has only limited resources and can't sustain such large
>> > populations..
>> >
>> > In closing, it would be amazing for me to find that Muslim's make babies
>> > just to spread their religion. I have Muslim friends, none of who have
>> more
>> > than 2 children. And as far as I know, most Muslims in India with large
>> > families are those at the bottom of the economic & education scale. It
>> would
>> > be more effective to control their population by giving them education &
>> > jobs rather than crying murder about their population increasing!
>> >
>> > Best, Mahesh
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Venkatesh Murthy
>> > <vmurthy36 at gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/27/world-muslim-population-doubling-report-projects/?hpt=Sbin
>> >>
>> >> Muslims are multiplying. But Brahmins/Hindus are obeying Government in
>> >> family planning. They must see how the Govt. of India is decieving us.
>> >> Reducing Brahmin population and increasing the so called minority vote
>> >> bank. Brahmins must stop family planning and have children like our
>> >> Grandfather's generation had. If there is only one child per family
>> >> chance of Dharma surviving is not good. Let Dharma be protected
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Regards
>> >>
>> >> -Venkatesh
>> >> _______________________________________________
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>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 23:15:55 +0530
>> From: Mahesh Ursekar <mahesh.ursekar at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] World Muslim Population Doubling
>> To: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta
>> <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
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>> U r right, it has no relevance! But it just curdles my mind when I read
>> such
>> "old worldly and biased" views (and they do crop up many a time) against
>> any
>> community. It might be because I take my Guru as Sri Ramakrishna, for whom
>> every religion was true and hence throwing aspersions against any one
>> would
>> be nothing short of blasphemy! I will gladly make this my last post on
>> this
>> topic, having said all that I wanted to...
>>
>> 2011/1/31 D.V.N.Sarma ??.??.???.???? <dvnsarma at gmail.com>
>>
>> > Is this post relevant to the
>> > objectives of this list?
>> >
>> > regards,
>> > Sarma.
>> > On 1/31/11, Mahesh Ursekar <mahesh.ursekar at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > So, r u saying only Hindu Brahmins protect dharma? And Muslims don't?
>> And
>> > > then again, does quantity help your cause? Or do you care about
>> quality
>> > > here? And lastly, did u read the full article? It says:
>> > >
>> > > *"The increase in the last 20 years is greater than what we expect in
>> the
>> > > next 20 years," he said. Muslim population growth "is a line that's
>> > > flattening out. They're increasing, but they're getting closer to the
>> > norm,
>> > > the average."*
>> > > *In other words, Muslims are coming into line with global trends
>> toward
>> > > fewer children per woman and an aging population. But, the report
>> points
>> > > out, because of the existing Muslim "youth bulge," or unusually high
>> > > percentage of young people, Muslim population growth has a certain
>> > momentum
>> > > that will take decades to come into line with world averages - if it
>> ever
>> > > does"*
>> > >
>> > > You are likely to jump at the last line, above. But I'm optimistic in
>> > that
>> > > "if it ever does" will certainly happen as it becomes blatantly
>> evident
>> > > that the earth has only limited resources and can't sustain such large
>> > > populations..
>> > >
>> > > In closing, it would be amazing for me to find that Muslim's make
>> babies
>> > > just to spread their religion. I have Muslim friends, none of who have
>> > more
>> > > than 2 children. And as far as I know, most Muslims in India with
>> large
>> > > families are those at the bottom of the economic & education scale. It
>> > would
>> > > be more effective to control their population by giving them education
>> &
>> > > jobs rather than crying murder about their population increasing!
>> > >
>> > > Best, Mahesh
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Venkatesh Murthy
>> > > <vmurthy36 at gmail.com>wrote:
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> >
>> http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/27/world-muslim-population-doubling-report-projects/?hpt=Sbin
>> > >>
>> > >> Muslims are multiplying. But Brahmins/Hindus are obeying Government
>> in
>> > >> family planning. They must see how the Govt. of India is decieving
>> us.
>> > >> Reducing Brahmin population and increasing the so called minority
>> vote
>> > >> bank. Brahmins must stop family planning and have children like our
>> > >> Grandfather's generation had. If there is only one child per family
>> > >> chance of Dharma surviving is not good. Let Dharma be protected
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Regards
>> > >>
>> > >> -Venkatesh
>> > >> _______________________________________________
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