[Advaita-l] Amritanubhava

Rajaram Venkataramani rajaramvenk at gmail.com
Sun Jun 19 11:01:32 CDT 2011


Very rightly said. Silence and statements such as "All this Vasudeva only"
or "I am Vishnu" are expressions of realization. To draw difference between
bhakti and jnana is like drawing the difference between the sun, its light
and heat.
 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 3:10 PM, kuntimaddi sadananda <
kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Rajaramji - PraNAms
>
> I understand from that he is echoing the statement of Shankara in
> Atmabodha.
>
> ajnaanakaluSham jiivam
> jnaabhaasaadvi nirmalam|
> kRitvaa jnaanam swayam nasyet
> jalam katakareNUvat||
>
> Vedantic knowledge which is also considered aparavidya, after (as though)
> delivering the goods, gets itself destroyed just like kataka nut powder
> added to purify the waters.
>
> The truth is not something to know but recognition of what one already is.
> Knowledge that be being pointed out - points out the truth that is
> self-existing and self-knowing principle.
>
> Bhakti supreme is also the same where the devotion culminates in the
> separateness of devotee and deity in the understanding of oneness.
>
> At that stage - one can declare it is all my vibuuti
> as Trishanku in the Taittiriiya says - aham VRikshasya reriva... or sing in
> ecstasy - aham annnam ahama annam aham annam - aham annnadou aham annadou
> aham anaadou.. etc.
> or gracefully say it is all his vibhuuti. He alone is or I alone am, are
> both valid statements. Bhati rasa and jnaana rasa are not two different -
> raso vai saH.
>
> In my opinion, any attempts to make distinction in these two are only
> indications of the need for clarity in understanding the nature of the
> reality.
>
> Hari Om!
> Sadananda
>
>
> --- On Sun, 6/19/11, Rajaram Venkataramani <rajaramvenk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> From the quote below, it seems Jnaneshwar says that jnana consumes itself
> but that the bliss of bhakti (bhakti-rasa) continues though the difference
> between the devotee and the lord is non-existent on liberation.
> Interestingly, it is the position taken by Madhusudana.
>
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:44 AM, Anand Hudli <anandhudli at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
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