[Advaita-l] 3 brahmacharis in a home

[Ramana Mallela]

I know some families of my close relatives (combined families from a
village) where there were 3 brahmacharis in the same family. These
families believe it is a sin not to initiate a boy at the age of 8
into brahmacharya!

a point of view:

Brahmacharya is a practice for individual. It is the duty of parents
to initiate one into brahmacharya as soon as possible.
8 may be a good age (before they have to join foundation IIT courses
and other tuition!).

It will also help if parents, with the help of their spiritual guru,
get the boy understand the objectives of the brahmacharya from the
kind guru -- what is praanayaama, meaning of Gaayatri mantra, right
method of meditation, overall goal of attaining brahmajnana... we know
It takes several years of disciplined practice to get to the meaning /
experience.

with regards
Ramana

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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Anand Hudli <anandhudli at hotmail.com>
> To: advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:23:38 +0530
> Subject: [Advaita-l] Taittiriya Brahmana question
> ब्रह्म जगदाकारेण परिणमते किम्? न। "नेह नानास्ति किञ्चन"
> इत्यादिश्रुतिबलान्निर्गुणं निर्विकारं निरवयवं निष्क्रियमद्वितीयं ब्रह्म जगतः
> परिणामिकारणमिति वक्तुं न शक्नुमः। यद्यप्यद्वैतमते ब्रह्मणो
> जगदुपादानत्वमङ्गीकृतं तथापि तदुपादानत्वं जगदध्यासाधिष्ठानत्वं, न
> परिणामिकारणम्। अथवा ब्रह्मण उपादानत्वं जगदाकारेण परिणममाणमायाधिष्ठानत्वम्।
> अत एवोक्तं पदार्थतत्वनिर्णयकारैः -
> ब्रह्म माया चेत्युभयमुपादानमित्युभयश्रुत्युपपत्तिः
> सत्ताजाड्यरूपोभयधर्मानुगत्युपपत्तिश्च। तत्र ब्रह्म विवर्तमानतयोपादानम्,
> अविद्या परिणममानतया।
>
> अथ को विवर्तः, कः परिणामः? उच्यते - वस्तुनस्तत्समसत्ताकोऽन्यथाभावः परिणामः,
> तदसमसत्ताको विवर्त इति। ब्रह्मणः पारमार्थिकसत्ता परंतु जगतो व्यावहारिकसत्ता,
> तस्मात् ब्रह्म जगतो विवर्तकारणम्। मायाया व्यावहारिकसत्ता, तस्मात् माया जगतः
> परिणामिकारणम्। शुक्तिरजतादिभ्रमेऽपि शुक्तेर्व्यावहारिकसत्ता रजतस्य तु
> प्रातिभासिकसत्ता, तस्मात् रजतस्य विवर्तकारणं शुक्तिः ।
>
> एतस्मिन्नेव  चर्चावेदिकायां  मयोक्तं  (English version)-
>
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>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com>
> To: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:45:41 +0530
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Taittiriya Brahmana question
> praNAms
> Hare Krishna
>
> I think mails under this thread has some problem as most of the mails are
> showing some computer characters.
>
> Hari Hari Hari bol!!!
> bhaskar
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Anand Hudli <anandhudli at hotmail.com>
> To: advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:18:24 +0530
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Taittiriya Brahmana question
> Bhaskar wrote:
>
>>I think mails under this thread has some problem as most of the mails are
>>showing some computer characters.
>
>
> I think your email client needs to be set up to handle Unicode characters.
> Please ask your system administrator to do this, since I realize you don't
> have Internet access.
>
> Anyway, here is a link that can help you:
>
> http://www.unicode.org/help/display_problems.html
>
> Anand
>
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com>
> To: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:45:34 +0530
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Taittiriya Brahmana question
> praNAms Sri Anand prabhuji
> Hare Krishna
>
> I dont know what exactly is this unicode character.  If you are talking
> about the 'language' other than English.  I can able to read the mails
> written in Kannada or Sanskrit in my computer..But I dont know how to
> write my mails in that language :-) ..But most of the mails in this thread
> having the 'possible spam' tag in the subject line.  I cannot explain all
> these things to my system administrator as my ID is meant only for
> official communication.
>
> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> bhaskar
>
>
>
> From:   Anand Hudli <anandhudli at hotmail.com>
> To:     advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
> Date:   06/27/2011 10:18 AM
> Subject:        Re: [Advaita-l] Taittiriya Brahmana question
> Sent by:        advaita-l-bounces at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
>
>
>
> Bhaskar wrote:
>
>>I think mails under this thread has some problem as most of the mails are
>>showing some computer characters.
>
>
> I think your email client needs to be set up to handle Unicode characters.
> Please ask your system administrator to do this, since I realize you don't
> have Internet access.
>
> Anyway, here is a link that can help you:
>
> http://www.unicode.org/help/display_problems.html
>
> Anand
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> From: Ramamurthy Venkateswaran <r_venkateswaran at hotmail.com>
> To: <sivasenani at yahoo.com>, <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 06:24:54 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Three bramhacharis in one home
>
> Pranams It is quite interesting to know that in a family there could be two but not three brahmacharis.  Will the custom and tradition permit more than four brahmacharis in a family? This is only an hypothetical question and rarely a situation like this happens.  Will be grateful if this doubt is clarified. Have another doubt: that in Tamil Nadu among the brahmins the married ladies (sumangalis) don't cut and stitch the two ends and perhaps this applies to a grahastha as well in respect of the 8 or 9 yard dhoti one wears besides the anga vastram.  In north India, where I spent four decades, the ladies including married ladies from south who are settled there opt to trim both the ends and get it stitched (what is known as piku/peeque).  Is there a rule/convention on this please? With profound regards,
>
>
>
> R. VENKATESWARAN
>
> email: r_venkateswaran at hotmail.com
>
>
>  > Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 06:21:59 -0700
>> From: sivasenani at yahoo.com
>> To: advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
>> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Three bramhacharis in one home
>>
>> Well, I did hear this that there should not be three brahmacharis in a house - though I do not yet know the basis. My father (we are Apastamba sutra followers) had three brothers, so I had asked whether my youngest uncle was upaneeta only after my eldest uncle got married, but I am yet to get a clear answer. Anyhow, nowadays it is rare to have four children, let alone four sons, so the question is not much tested in practice, I guess.
>>
>> Regards
>> N. Siva Senani
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >________________________________
>> >From: "N R, Chakradhar (Chakradhar)" <chakradhar.nr at alcatel-lucent.com>
>> >To: "advaita-l-request at lists.advaita-vedanta.org" <advaita-l-request at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>; "advaita-l-bounces at lists.advaita-vedanta.org" <advaita-l-bounces at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>; "advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
>> >Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 5:59 PM
>> >Subject: [Advaita-l] Three bramhacharis in one home
>> >
>> >Is there any restrictions in any Dharma Shastra's (Smritis) or Sutras about NOT doing UPANAYANAM for the third male child if the elder brother is not married because there will be three brahmacharis in a single home?
>> >The reason I could gather was that marriages to some of those male children will not happen. The reason is not very convincing.
>> >
>> >What is the alternative suggested in such cases?
>> >Can the elite members of the forum please share their views on the above topic?
>> >
>> >Thanks and Regards,
>> >Chakra
>> >
>> >
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "N R, Chakradhar (Chakradhar)" <chakradhar.nr at alcatel-lucent.com>
> To: Siva Senani Nori <sivasenani at yahoo.com>, A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 12:11:00 +0530
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Three bramhacharis in one home
> Namaskarams Siva Senani Garu,
> This is a very practical issue in my family. My sister is having three sons and the age difference between each of them is not more than 2.5 years. The eldest had his upanayanam done in 2010 and for the second one it happened this month. It will be atleast another 10 to 15 years before the eldest one gets married. Keeping these practical considerations, I request the members to share their views on this.
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Chakra
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Siva Senani Nori [mailto:sivasenani at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 6:52 PM
> To: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Three bramhacharis in one home
>
> Well, I did hear this that there should not be three brahmacharis in a house - though I do not yet know the basis. My father (we are Apastamba sutra followers) had three brothers, so I had asked whether my youngest uncle was upaneeta only after my eldest uncle got married, but I am yet to get a clear answer. Anyhow, nowadays it is rare to have four children, let alone four sons, so the question is not much tested in practice, I guess.
>
> Regards
> N. Siva Senani
>
>
>
>
>
>>________________________________
>>From: "N R, Chakradhar (Chakradhar)" <chakradhar.nr at alcatel-lucent.com>
>>To: "advaita-l-request at lists.advaita-vedanta.org" <advaita-l-request at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>; "advaita-l-bounces at lists.advaita-vedanta.org" <advaita-l-bounces at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>; "advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
>>Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 5:59 PM
>>Subject: [Advaita-l] Three bramhacharis in one home
>>
>>Is there any restrictions in any Dharma Shastra's (Smritis) or Sutras about NOT doing UPANAYANAM for the third male child if the elder brother is not married because there will be three brahmacharis in a single home?
>>The reason I could gather was that marriages to some of those male children will not happen. The reason is not very convincing.
>>
>>What is the alternative suggested in such cases?
>>Can the elite members of the forum please share their views on the above topic?
>>
>>Thanks and Regards,
>>Chakra
>>
>>
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> From: Anand Hudli <anandhudli at hotmail.com>
> To: advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 16:25:16 +0530
> Subject: [Advaita-l] (Alleged) Internal Inconsistencies in the Advaita Tradition
> Please see:
>
> http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/archives/advaita-l/2011-January/026319.html
> http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/archives/advaita-l/2011-January/026337.html
> http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/archives/advaita-l/2011-January/026343.html
> http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/archives/advaita-l/2011-January/026395.html
>
> Anand
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "D.V.N.Sarma డి.వి.ఎన్.శర్మ" <dvnsarma at gmail.com>
> To: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 18:05:04 +0530
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Taittiriya Brahmana question
> THis is not a list devoted to Sanskrit language. The list is for adwaita.
> There are a number of people who do not know sanskrit. Remember
> we have quite a few foreigners also. Quotations in sanskrit are in order
> provided their meaning in english is  also supplied. But posts completely
> in sanskrit , I do not think, are in consonance with the aims of the list.
>
> regards,
> Sarma.
>
> 2011/6/26 Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com>
>
>> नमस्ते
>>
>> न केवलं भारतीयाः प्रत्युत पाश्चात्या अपि विद्वांसः संस्कृतभाषायाः
>> महत्वं स्वीकुर्वन्ति । प्राचीनकाले सर्वे जनाः संस्कृतभाषामेव वदन्ति
>> स्म । अतः समग्रमपि प्राचीनसाहित्यं संस्कृतभाषायामेव उपलभ्यते ।
>> वेदानामपि भाषा संस्कृतमेव । शंकरभगवत्पादाचार्याः अपि
>> प्रस्थानत्रयीभाष्याणि अनेकप्रकरणग्रन्थान् स्तोत्राणि च देवभाषायामेव
>> लिखितवन्तः ।
>>
>> ईदृशीं भाषां त्यक्त्वा म्लेच्छभाषायां आङ्ग्लभाषायां अद्वैतमतवादविवादः
>> कथं उचितः भवति ? अतः अत्र अद्वैतमतस्य चर्चा देवभाषायामेव करणीया न तु
>> म्लेच्छभाषायां इति मम आशा ।
>>
>>
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