[Advaita-l] The collapse of duality in the geeta

[Sriram Krishnamurthy]

Namaste Sunil Ji,
What Jaldhar explained is about Shankaran Advaita. We are not concerned
about Nastika doctrines.

Thanks and Regards,
Sriram

On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Sunil Bhattacharjya <
sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Namste Jaldharji,
>
>  What you said is the Hinayana view only. The Mahayana view means Nirvana
> is getting out of the five Skanfhas (five Koshas) so that one gets out of
> the birth and death cycle by following the prescribed path or way of life.
> The oneness with the universal awareness is achieved after leaving the
> individualistic body of five koshas. Nagarjuna boldly says that Shunyata
> does not mean non-existence.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sunil K. Bhatacharjya
>
> --- On Fri, 3/25/11, Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at braincells.com> wrote:
>
> From: Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at braincells.com>
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] The collapse of duality in the geeta
> To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> Date: Friday, March 25, 2011, 10:31 PM
>
> On Sat, 19 Mar 2011, dr.praveen kumar wrote:
>
> > Can I ask Jaldharji to elucidate the portion of Geetha which explains
> with
> > the
> > point of realisation,duality collapses?
> >
>
> It is a good idea to address such questions to the list at large but since
> you asked me personally, I think the vivid example of this is in the
> Vishvarupayoga.  Earlier Krshna Bhagavan has told Arjuna how he dwells
> within all including Arjuna himself (10.36 pANDaVAnAM dhana~njaya) and now
> He gives a practical demonstration.
>
> This is one difference between the Vedantic vision and the nastikas. Buddha
> saw the end of duality as empty void -- the end of being altogether.  This
> is why he calls the supreme goal nIrvANa ("extinction".) But our Rshis saw
> it as the fullness (pUrNata) of being.  There is nothing that is not
> pervaded by Brahman.
>
> Arjuna finds this vision too difficult to bear as even with divine help, he
> is simply not prepared.  Glimpses of non-duality can be had even by those
> with no knowledge of Vedanta whatsover.  But this is fleeting and unstable.
> jnana is what makes one "established in Brahman" (brahmaniShTa)
>
> -- Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at braincells.com>
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