[Advaita-l] samsaara

V Subrahmanian v.subrahmanian at gmail.com
Wed Oct 5 12:57:07 CDT 2011

Here is one more explanation to the 'ocean' ness of samsara - transmigratory

There is a hexad called षडूर्मयः - ShaDUrmayaH - Urmi is a wave.  The six
'waves' are made up of three pairs:

1. jarA-mRtyU - birth  and death pertaining to the gross body
2. kShut-pipAsA - hunger and thirst pertaining to the subtle (prANamaya
3. shoka-moha - misery and delusion pertaining to the subtle body (mind)

Since these six 'waves' keep battering the jIva incessantly, as long as the
jiva is in ignorance, this state of samsara is called a 'sAgara', ocean.

For the VivekachUDAmaNi 257 starting with the words ShaDUrmibhiH ....Sri
Chandrashekhara Bharati SwaminaH writes: क्षुत्पिपासे शोकमोहौ  जरामृत्यू
ऊर्मिवत् तरंगवत् उपर्युपरि सम्भवन्तीति एते षडूर्मय इति कथ्यन्ते ।

I think there is a reference to these three pairs in the Br.Upanishad too.
Someone may provide the same.


On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Siva Senani Nori <sivasenani at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Sir
> In this kind of usage, it is the seemingly endless expanse of the
> ocean that is used as a metaphor for the cycle of birth and death called
> samsaara.
> sam sarati iti samsaarah - ('sam' is comprehensive and 'sarati' is moves
> about, as seen in the Marathi usage 'sarak'). Now "sam sarati", as I
> recollect, is explained as the movement between death and birth. I guess,
> one could also characterise it as the movement between cause and effect. The
> karma accumulated - good or bad - in a birth can be seen as the cause; after
> enjoying the results appropriate to that karma - time spent in Naraka or
> Svarga thus exhausting a part of the accumulated karma - one goes back to
> life again. Both the paraloka enjoyed and the particular form of birth - as
> an insect, bird, animal, human being etc. - could be taken as the effect.
> After birth, death is inevitable; and once a life is led, some karma would
> be accumulated unless one gets j~naana, and so once again the cycle - of
> birth and death, or cause and effect - continues.
> Just like crossing the ocean is very difficult but possible, it might be
> thought that crossing the endless cycle of birth and death is difficult, but
> possible.
> Saagara is also known for other qualities like fathomless depth
> (gambheerah),

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