[Advaita-l] An instance of Advaita wrongly comprehended
Sunil Bhattacharjya
sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com
Tue Apr 17 12:42:54 CDT 2012
Namste Sadanandaji,
I agree with you academically but the problem remains as to how to impress on the uninformed people not to ridicule the Advaitins because the Advaitins are sane people and they accept the existence of the world fully knowing the true nature of the world. It is only the uninformed ones who are confused and do not know the true nature of the world. Don't you think that we have a responsibility to take such people (excluding of course the prejudiced ones) with us. It seems in Adi Sankara's time people understood the term Mithya properly and easily. Today most people are simply put off by word "Mithya".
Regards,
Sunil KB
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From: kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com>
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Sunilji - Mithyaa does not involve confusion. Confusion comes from error which is adhyaasa when mithyaa is taken as satyaa. A jnaani recognizes the world is mithyaa - jagat mithyaa as one of the three dictates of adviata vedanta -while ajnaani assumes that jagat is satyaa. Here it is not confusion but ignorance of the fact.
Jagat exists as it is as existence is the very basis or foundation or as sloka 5 of ch. 7 that we discussed says - para prakRiti - idam jagat dhaaryate. Jnaani recognizes this fact after Vedanta shravanam while ajnaani operates taking the world as satya and suffers as a consequence of that lack of understanding.
Hari Om!
Sadananda
--- On Tue, 4/17/12, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Don't you think that the proper English equivalent word for
> "Mithya" will be "Confusion" rather than "False"? At least,
> with the use of the word "Confusion", the people will not
> get confused about the meaning of "Brahma satyam
> jaganmithya". The Jagat does exist and only the way the
> Jnani looks at it is different from the way an ajnani looks
> at it.
>
> Regards,
> Sunil KB
>
>
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> From: kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com>
> To: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
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> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 4:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] An instance of Advaita wrongly
> comprehended
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>
> > > 2. If the world of objects is unreal, then how can
> you
> > continue to see it
> > > when you are a jnani? If a jnani transacts in the
> > world, then you can only
> > > say it is only because of residual avidya that
> operates
> > due to prarabda.
>
> The world is neither real or unreal - that is what is
> referred to as mithyaa. sat asat vilakshNam. If jnaani
> cannot see the world, it is about the time he has get an
> appointment with his opthamologist as something wrong with
> his eyes or with his eye-sight. Jnaana kshakshu is different
> from physical eye and phisological funtions. It requires
> wisdom-eye or viveka to see the oneness that pervades the
> apparent duality. Then only he is a jnaani not when his
> physical eye stops seeing duality.
>
> I agree with Subbuji that not understanding advaita properly
> and making comments pervades lot of dvaita and
> vishiShTaadvaita literature, and is also obvious in these
> posts too. Not understanding is not a problem but
> misunderstanding and claiming that is what advaita says is
> bigger problem. It requires lot more unlearning before real
> learning can take place, since one has already concluded and
> therefore not open to learning.
>
> Hari Om!
> Sadananda
>
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