[Advaita-l] Mula avidya and adhyasa-SSS discussions.
bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com
Fri Aug 24 05:30:08 CDT 2012
Reply: Not so, for by saying this you will be flouting the scriptures. It
is not our idea, but that of the scriptures. Hence your fling hits them
(the shruti-s). ...But owing to ignorance it superimposes on itself the
notion that it is not Brahman, and that it is not all, and consequently
thinbks, through mistake, that it is an agent, possessed of activity, the
experiencer of its fruits, happy or miserable and transmigrating
Not so, the context here is not to establish brahmAshrita avidyA, if that
is the case any amount of sAdhana from jeeva cannot remove the
brahmAshrita avidyA. OTOH, here it is said that jeeva who is in svarUpa
brahma and there is no other chaitanya entity other than brahma. That is
the reason why shankara in this very bhAshya vAkya clarifies, kim tarhi na
brahma svAtmani atatdharma adhyArOpaNa nimittaM avidyA kartru cheti??
bhavatvevaM nAvidyAkartru bhrAntaM cha brahma, kim tu naivA brahmA
avidyAkartA chetanO bhrAnta anya ishyate. Here shankara clearly says
though jeeva is in his svarUpa brahma but brahma is not the jeeva svarUpa.
brahman is nitya shuddha, buddha, mukta svabhAva.
But in sUtra bhAshya there is an exclusive talk with regard to avidyA.
Here pUrvapaxi questions : kasya punarayamaprabOdhaH iti chet?? yastvaM
prucchasi tasya ta iti vadAmaH, nanvahameeshwara evOktaH shrutyA??
yadyevaM pratibuddhOsi, nAsti kasyachidaprabhOdhaH. Here shankara has the
ample opportunity to prove the brahmAshrita avidyA (if at all it is
brahmAbhinna) but here on the contrary he says, if you know you are
shruti pratipAdya Ishwara/brahman, then there is no avidyA whatsoever to
Please see also geeta bhAshya 13-2, atrAha evaM tarhi jnAtru dharmO
avidyA, 'NA' shankara answers & clarifies it is ONLY karaNa dharma not
pertains to jnAtru, karaNsyaiva kasyachidbhavitumarhanti, na jnAtuH
Moreover, if the avidyA is brahmAshrita, what is the role of this avidyA??
shankara clarifies avidyA kArya is katrutva bhOktrutva pravartakaH, so,
if the brahma is contaminated with avidyA, then in brahman also there is
katrutva, bhOktrutva and resultant rAga-dvesha. I hope this will not be
the suitable definition of advaita's adviteeya nitya, shuddha, buddha,
Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
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