[Advaita-l] Advaita-l Digest, Vol 90, Issue 3

[Sreevalsa Kolathayar]

SrimadBhagavatam describes Bhugola varnana in 5th Canto, Gola means rounded

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>   1. Re: Adi Sankara knew Earth is round and rotating
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>   2. Re: Why realization is difficult? (Sumitha Ramachandran)
>   3. Re: Analysis of attributes and their locus (V Subrahmanian)
>   4. Re: Analysis of attributes and their locus (Venkatesh Murthy)
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> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 11:30:58 -0800 (PST)
> From: Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com>
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> Namaste,
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>
> Aryabhatta was born in 1325 BCE, according to one source (P.C.Sengupta
> quotes the relevant verse) and according to several? other sources (Dr.
> Kosla Vepa quotes that verse) Aryabhatta was born even much earlier.
> Aryabhatta was the first among the ancient Indians to say that the Earth
> moved round the Sun. The Vedas also have allusion to that. A great Vedic
> scholar Adi Sankara is obviously expected to know that the Earth moved
> round the earth.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sunil KB
>
>
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>  From: Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [Advaita-l] Adi Sankara knew Earth is round and rotating
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> Namaste
>
> In Bruhadaranyaka 6-2-11 Adi Sankara has said Pruthvi Chayam Hi
> Sharvaram Tama Acakshate- They say the shadow portion of Earth is
> Darkness of Night
>
> The Sunlight portion? is Day and the Shadow portion is Night. He knew
> Earth is rotating and round before Westerners discovered the same.
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> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 13:57:34 +0530 (IST)
> From: Sumitha Ramachandran <sumitha.rama at yahoo.com>
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> Namaste.
> ??????? It was a happy coincidence.
> I am reproducing here a mail I received from another group today.
> ?
> humbly,
> smt.sumitha
> ?
> A Nama from Vishnu Sahasranama:
> ?
> 778 OM durgamaaya namaH .
> "One Who is realized with difficulty."* In Bhaagavata there is a statement
> that the Lord is easily obtained (A-dur-gamah). For those who have not
> already
> developed extreme meditative abilities in their devoted hearts, the
> processes
> of self development, when studied from a book or heard from a teacher, the
> immediate reaction in the bosom of such students will be that it is very
> difficult. But as he marches forward in his saadhanaa he gains the further
> guidance and inspiration to 'go-forward'. More bounteous aspects on him
> beam
> and the 'kindly light' leads him safely to the goal through all obstacles.
> A
> candle or torch can at best light up only ten or fifteen yards in front of
> a
> traveller. It can never illuminate the whole path of one or two miles at a
> stretch. He has to start and proceed as far as he can see and as he marches
> ahead the forward stretches will be illuminated.
> * (Durgam pathastatkavayo vadanti.) --Kathopanishad-1.3.14.
>
>
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> praNAms
> Hare Krishna
> What are the obstacles?
> > ajnAna
> Who has that?
> >? the person who has this question in his mind & asking it for the
> clarification (reference vide sUtra bhAshya of shankara)
> Why is he not able to remove them?
> >? lack of sAdhana
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> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 17:27:37 +0530
> From: V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
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> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Namaste
> >
> > >
> > But the suffering people can think of reducing the suffering
> > immediately only. Advaita demands them to think very radically and it
> > is not possible do that. They are thinking how to reduce suffering
> > immediately.  They can't think of other things. Advaita is not for
> > person happy with his life and lazy and not for the suffering person
> > also. It is for the middle person. He is not suffering very much and
> > he is not happy with his life 100%.
> >
>
> The requirements of a vedanta sadhaka includes 'titikShA' which is defined
> as   -
>
> ???? ???????????? ????????????????? ? ???????????????? ?? ???????? ????????
> ?  The 'balam' required for 'AtmalAbha' derives, among other things, also
> from this very important factor.  In fact one of the very definitions of
> samsara talks of '????????? the six-fold 'waves' that continuously batter
> the jiva - sukha-duHkha, hunger and thirst and birth and death.  The Gita
> requires one to often contemplate thus:
> ??????????-?????????-????????????????? where the very contemplation is
> aimed at producing the viveka that life indeed is fraught with pain, in
> whatever degree it occurs to one. One can learn from one's own or others'
> duHkha/vyAdhi.
>
> subrahmanian.v
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> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 20:45:29 +0530
> From: Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com>
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> Namaste
>
> In Gita 6-16 Krishna has said a Yogi has to be Yuktahara. If he eats
> too much he will fail. If he eats too less he fails again. The rich
> man eats too much and the poor man cannot eat enough many times. The
> middle class person being not rich not poor can eat enough quantity
> for success. Like this Yuktavihara is possible for the not rich not
> poor man but the other two find it difficult.
>
> Yuktaceshta. The rich man has too much recreation and sometimes too
> much hard work. The poor man has too less recreation. The middle class
> man has enough recreation.
>
> Yuktasvapnavabodha. The rich man and the poor man cannot sleep regular
> hours. The rich man has to be awake enjoying late night parties and
> the poor man works in night shift many times. When the others are
> awake they are still sleeping. The middle class man cannot spend money
> in late night parties and and he can work comfortably in the day time
> and sleep in regular hours.
>
> I am not saying rich and poor class cannot succeed but it will be
> difficult for them.
>
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:27 PM, V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Namaste
> >>
> >> >
> >> But the suffering people can think of reducing the suffering
> >> immediately only. Advaita demands them to think very radically and it
> >> is not possible do that. They are thinking how to reduce suffering
> >> immediately. ?They can't think of other things. Advaita is not for
> >> person happy with his life and lazy and not for the suffering person
> >> also. It is for the middle person. He is not suffering very much and
> >> he is not happy with his life 100%.
> >>
> >
> > The requirements of a vedanta sadhaka includes 'titikShA' which is
> defined
> > as ? -
> >
> > ???? ???????????? ????????????????? ? ???????????????? ?? ????????
> ????????
> > ? ?The 'balam' required for 'AtmalAbha' derives, among other things, also
> > from this very important factor. ?In fact one of the very definitions of
> > samsara talks of '????????? the six-fold 'waves' that continuously batter
> > the jiva - sukha-duHkha, hunger and thirst and birth and death. ?The Gita
> > requires one to often contemplate thus:
> > ??????????-?????????-????????????????? where the very contemplation is
> > aimed at producing the viveka that life indeed is fraught with pain, in
> > whatever degree it occurs to one. One can learn from one's own or others'
> > duHkha/vyAdhi.
> >
> > subrahmanian.v
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> -Venkatesh
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Sreevalsa Kolathayar
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