[Advaita-l] Advaiti Response to this report?

abhishek sm abhishek046 at gmail.com
Mon Jan 16 06:43:57 CST 2012

If there were
nothing but silence, it wouldn't
exist for you; you wouldn't know
what it is. Only when sound
appears does silence come into
being. Similarly, if there were only
space without any objects in
space, it wouldn't exist for you.
Imagine yourself as a point of
consciousness floating in the
vastness of space - no stars, no
galaxies, just emptiness. Suddenly,
space wouldn't be vast anymore; it
would not be there at all. There
would be no speed, no movement
from here to there. At least two
points of reference are needed for
distance and space to come into
being. Space comes into being the
moment the One becomes two,
and as "two" become the "ten
thousand things.
But it is always the one that is the source of many.
So to prove the existence of Brahman alone it is necessary to prove
the non-existence of Maya.
Only when a disciple is crystal clear of the notion of non-dual
Brahman, he no longer tilts towards the maya aspect. Hence, Mayavada
is required atleast in the beginning if not in the entire process.
Sadly dvaitins waste their time debating the nature of Maya which
triggers such unwanted debates.

On 1/16/12, Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Namaste
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Kalyan K <kalyankc.81 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Namaste Venkatesh-ji
>>> But Advaitis are caught up in Mayavada only insted of Sadvada.
>> Mayavada is generally used as a derogatory term by dvaitins and others
>> against advaita. The real spirit of advaita is brahmavada, not
>> mayavada. You will be doing a great disservice to advaita by calling
>> it as mayavada. Yes, nothing is ever born or destroyed, because when
>> eveything is brahman, the question of birth or death does not arise.
>> This is brahmavada in its purest form. When you worship brahman in
>> saguna form, like narayana or siva or sakti, the same priciple of
>> brahmavada (seeing siva or narayana or sakti everywhere) will also
>> lead you to the highest form of bhakti. That is why we have stalwarts
>> like madhusudhana saraswati who are both advaitins and krishna-bhaktas
>> at the same time. That is why Sri Sankara was able to compose both
>> devotional works as well as works imparting jnana at the same time. I
>> regret your fundamental misunderstanding of advaita.
> I agree Brahmavada is the purest Advaita. But why not learn this pure
> Brahmavada only? Mayavada is concentrating on something not Sat and it
> is a disturbance because it makes the mind go away from Sat.
>> Regards
>> Kalyan
> --
> Regards
> -Venkatesh
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