[Advaita-l] Holenarsipur Swamiji's remarks and why even Avidya is not necessary for Advaita

Vidyasankar Sundaresan svidyasankar at hotmail.com
Mon Jan 30 11:13:15 CST 2012

Okay, you have been given vast latitude to express your half-baked views on
this list. Some have tried to reason with you, others have tried engaging you
in other kinds of dialogue. At least one member has asked you to stop. After
asking you to cease the earlier thread, I let this go on for a while, just to give
other list members an opportunity to engage you in a discussion and hopefully
make it a meaningful one. Kudos to your unique ability to make all such efforts
quite meaningless very quickly. 

Your earlier thread began with a "report" and you started asking about the
"advaitin response" to it. The way the thread developed, it had nothing to do
with either the report or a response. It became merely a heading under which
you posted every single thought that happened to cross your head as if it were
well reasoned philosophy. Here we are, two weeks later, and you are doing
exactly the same thing all over again. What the Holenarsipur Swamiji said or
didn't say does not seem to be the focus of your questions here. For that
matter, you don't seem to listen to what anybody other than you says.   
So, you leave me with no choice but to pull the plug once again. Close this
thread out no later than midnight, Tuesday, Jan 31, 2012, Indian standard
time. I have again given you sufficient time to wind up, after giving you more
than sufficient space to air your thoughts. If you or any other list member
wants to continue this thread, take it offline. The patience of others on this
list is wearing thin. 


> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 22:21:32 +0530
> From: vmurthy36 at gmail.com
> To: advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Holenarsipur Swamiji's remarks and why even Avidya is not necessary for Advaita
> Namaste
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Vidyasankar Sundaresan
> <svidyasankar at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > You just don't seem to get it. mAyAvAda is nothing more than pointing to
> > people that they are like children, playing and having fun in dirty water.
> > It is like the parent telling the child that at some point, it is necessary to
> > get out of the dirt and get cleaned up. You are blaming the messenger
> > for the content of the message, a classic misdirection.
> Another example. Mayavada is saying avoid the water because it is
> dirty to the thirsty man. Brahmavada is saying the water may be
> looking like dirty water. Don't avoid it but purify it and drink it.
> The dirty water has pure water as the base. Get the base. Here in
> India we are always using water purifiers at home and drink it. If you
> say give up the water people will die of thirst.

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