[Advaita-l] mleccha-s not eligible to take Hinduism??

[praveen kumar]

Sri Venkataramani,

We have to deal birth as not an accidental event but a finely regulated and
planned event.Each jeevatama is given or rather it has chosen
a particular varna in this birth based on it's accumulated karma of the
past,the karma that it has to undergo etc.
Now with particular reference about Westerners have satvic attributes.You
are not at all justified in using brahmana word just based
on the outwardly satvic nature.They are already born in a faith/religion
different from sanatana dharma.The best course for them is to
follow their own ordained religion and follow the righteous path.The whole
process of karmic balance will ensure that they get elevated
in subsequent janma to pursue those traits.

If somebody wants to take the good principles from sanatana dharma and
follow them,that is also acceptable though less than satisfactory
as krishna himself said in geeta swadharma alone is shreshta.This is
something even achrayas like Sri Chandrashekarabharathi swamiji
told repeatedly.
What becomes unnecessary or unacceptable is to give an artificial tag of
varna and do conversion,give yagnopavita,allow marriages
between religions,allowing upanayana samskara to the children born from
such union etc.

These are all based on my discussions with late Sri Rangapriya desikan who
was one of the finest exponenets of dharma shastra of the country.
We can't think/act as we wish.These are all already fine tuned and
regulated processes.

On 14 July 2012 17:52, Rajaram Venkataramani <rajaramvenk at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Sri Ravi,
>
> If you read my post, you will see that I do not at all contradict
> mahaperiyava's views. Let me restate again briefly. At the time of
> creation, there were four Varnas. All humans that exist belong to one of
> these four Varnas. They may not follow the varna dharma and may not even
> know that there is such a thing as varnashrama but they cannot lose their
> ancestry. I hope you agree with this to start with. I also agree that varna
> is by birth only. And it is possible to determine one's varna by jati. We
> have no difference of opinion until this point. The question arises with
> respect to people who do not know their jati such as those who live in the
> US, UK etc. They may belong to different races but are ultimately
> descendants of the same ancestors who came fom the first yajna. They are
> also influenced by the three gunas - sattva, rajas and tamas. If they have
> preponderance of sattva, they belong to brahmana varna and so on. It is
> possible to determine that by the use of astrology. Just as we cannot ask a
> man to act like a woman and vice versa, we cannot force a person to act
> against his varna just because his skin colour is white, yellow or black.
> The question is whether a brahmana can give this right to one who is not
> his son. There is no evidence to say so. He is not changing someone's varna
> but recognising it. That is all. Can we discuss further with reference to
> sruti and smrti?
>
> Best Regards
> Rajaram Venkataramani
>
> On Saturday, July 14, 2012, ravi chandrasekhara wrote:
>



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Praveen