[Advaita-l] mleccha-s not eligible to take Hinduism??

[Abhishek Madhyastha]

I remember a dialogue from the movie on acharya which goes somewhat
like-"The shastras forbade sanyasins from performing the rites of a
person but a sanyasin is one who is not bound by the shastras at all!
So he is free to perform the rites when necessary."

Regarding parakaya pravesha, I remember having read somewhere that
while ascending the Sarvajna peetha, Sharada devi questioned Shankara
as to how he is pure even after doing parakaya pravesha? For this I
believe Shankara replied- "That which is not done in my body cannot be
regarded as a taint on my purity. Moreover, the question of purity is
for my body alone but I am not a body, I am the self who is ever
pure."

On 6/27/12, ravi chandrasekhara <vadhula at yahoo.com> wrote:
> May be true but from what Jaldhar I think mentioned few years ago on this is
> list is that Shankaracharya in his bhashya stated Jabala was a Braahmana by
> birth. But in general, even Gurus (Not Rishis) may not have authority to
> convert one to a Shudra, Braahmana, etc. In addition, "who is the correct
> Guru" ? For example, Dayanand Saraswati of Arya Samaj would give Upanayana
> Samskara to anyone, but the traditional Sampradaya Acharayas
> (Shankaracharyas, Madhwa Mutts, Sri Vaishnava, etc) state it is contrary to
> Shastras and not correct.
>
> Ravi Chandrasekhara
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com>
> To: ravi chandrasekhara <vadhula at yahoo.com>; A discussion group for Advaita
> Vedanta <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] mleccha-s not eligible to take Hinduism??
>
>
> Dear Raviji,
>
> The guru can give the adhikara in the deserving cases. Satyakama is an
> example.
>
> Regards,
> Sunil KB
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: ravi chandrasekhara <vadhula at yahoo.com>
> To: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta
> <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> Cc: RAVI CHANDRASEKHARA <vadhula at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 9:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] mleccha-s not eligible to take Hinduism??
>
> It is wonderful to hear, but per shastras he has no adhikara for Upanayna
> and sandhya-vandana. There is alternative Sandhya method for those who do
> not have adhikara.  Dvijas who default on their duties on the other hand
> will hav eto answer/pay for it later.
>
> Ravi Chandrasekhara
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com>
> To: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta
> <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 9:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] mleccha-s not eligible to take Hinduism??
>
>
> PraNAms
>
> I just saw Shivashankar/Lundgren mail. I have a fond memories of meeting him
> in person in Stockholm and almost had daily extensive discussions
>  on Advaita Vedanta. He organized my talk at the local Hindu temple and we
> had after scrumptious South Indian dinner.
>
> He is more a Hindu than many Hindus I have met and more a Brahmin than many
> I know.
>
> Hari Om!
> Sadananda
>
> --- On Tue, 6/26/12, S L Shivashankar <slshivashankar at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> I can speak from years of personal experience here: I have
>> myself undergone
>> upanayanam many years ago, and I have never on any occasion
>> encountered any
>> traditional pandit or acharya who has said this was a
>> mistake. On the
>> contrary, they have been very happy finding out that a
>> westerner (i am from
>> Sweden) have undergone upanayanam, and they have encouraged
>> me and
>> instructed me to strictly perform my sandhyavandanam,
>> performing pujas
>  and
>> study traditional vedic chanting. Moreover, I have several
>> western friends
>> with similar experiences from traditional acharyas, pandits
>> and mathas.
>>
>> Warmest regards
>> S. L. Shivashankar
>> (a.k.a. Stig Lundgren)
>>
>>
>>
>>
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