[Advaita-l] mleccha-s not eligible to take Hinduism??

vadhula at yahoo.com vadhula at yahoo.com
Thu Jun 28 06:26:48 CDT 2012

I do not know if that is shastrically sanctioned where a Braahmana family can adopt a non-Dvija boy and "make him a Braahmana". I have heard through personal communication that it is not. Legal matters are a different issue.

Ravi Chandrasekhara

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On Jun 28, 2012, at 5:21 AM, V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com> wrote:

> Apart from the 'mixing' of varNas due to marriage and the offspring through
> such marriage being / becoming eligible for upanayana, there is another way
> also in which this comes about:  There are many childless couples who wish
> to adopt a child.  A brahmin couple known to me adopted a male child of
> about one year.  The adoption Agency does not, as a policy, reveal the
> background of the child.  So the adoptive parents do not know the varNa of
> the child. When he was about eight years this couple performed his
> upanayanam,  Now, on observation, we can say that infants coming for
> adoption are extremely rarely from brahmin community or even the others of
> the traivarnikas.  The adoptive parents are most likely getting a child
> from a non-traivarnika community, or even different religion.  Yet, a legal
> adoption, makes this child theirs and this couple performed the upanayanam
> as in the case of any other brahmin boy.  And this 'brahmin' brahmacharin
> can even take up veda adhyayana, and become a purohit and even marry a
> brahmin bride.
> I just mentioned this as an additional way in which one gets a brahmin
> lineage continuing, without being sure of the varNa of the adopted child.
> There were and are rarely cases where childless couples adopted someone
> from their relatives.  Here there is no unknown factor as above.  But in a
> large majority of cases it is unknown alone and the brahmaNa lineage gets
> going with upanayanam and veda adhyayanam.  I am not saying this is right
> or wrong.  I only mentioned the vastu sthitiH.
> subrahmanian.v
> I recently heard this from a Kannada smArta family:  They have a son who
>> works in a small hotel as a cashier and finding a match for him was a great
>> difficulty.  They told me that many smarta/madhwa families have started
>> taking brides from a Lingayat sub-sect called 'panchama sAli'.  It is
>> learned that this sect is authorised to perform puja (archaka) in
>> Shiva/Devi Temples.  When my friend's family went to a house of this
>> community to see a prospective bride, they informed them that the elder
>> sister of this girl is married into a Madhwa family in Bangalore who gave
>> them (the bride's family) a decent sum of money apart from spending money
>> for the marriage themselves.  I heard that this practice of (arranged)
>> inter-marriage  between brahmins and panchama sAli-s is now becoming
>> popular.
>> So, smarta/madhwa families are getting 'cosmopoliton'.  I mentioned this
>> not as  a non-advaitic topic but since the discussion on conversion, etc.
>> is initiated now.  Many say those  brahmana men in the purohita profession
>> also face this difficulty and this solution is becoming popular.
>> subrahmanian.v
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