[Advaita-l] Eternal Loka

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Sat Nov 3 17:04:33 CDT 2012

I looked it up. The term vaikuntha is used to denote the loka and also the lord. 
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From: Rajaram Venkataramani <rajaramvenk at gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 08:01:35 
To: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta<advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Eternal Loka

On Friday, November 2, 2012, V Subrahmanian wrote:

> If by Bhaktirasa is meant Brahman
> (just like svarUpajnAnam (jnapti) is only Brahman), then there will be no
> objection to such a 'rasa' (which is a technical term used by the
> particular author to connote Brahman, perhaps based on the shruti 'raso vai
> saH').  In any case the experiencer of such a rasa cannot be admitted to
> continue as a separate entity from Brahman/BhagavAn in mukti too.
> RV: In the highest stage of Bhakti, there is realisation "I am He". So,
even in jivan mukti, he does not think I am different. The existence of his
body does not affect a uttama bhakta's atma jnanam. His bhagavad bhakti and
atma jnanam do not affect each other as we see in atmaramas verse as well
as practically in the lives of Sridhara, Madhusudana, Sadasiva Brahmendral,
Bhogendrl, Sringeri Periyava etc. We see from the rasa schemes of both
Madhusudana and Sridhra, Bhakti continues to grow in a jivan mukta. Meera
and Sadasiva Brahmendral composed new poetry sharing new experiences after
jivan mukti. They didn't reject bhagavad bhakti after jivan mukti on the
grounds that Ishwara is a mere illusion though they shunned matrial life.
What is special about this " god delusion", that is acceptable to an
atmarama than attraction to a mohini? What happens to that devotee who is
atma rama but wants only eternal loving devotional service - the lord
cannot override his desire, surely?

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